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Offline Neill Richard Potts

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Help to Date this Photo Akrill family
« on: Friday 08 January 21 17:49 GMT (UK) »
Hello

I wonder if it's possible to help date this photograph please to help us identify who the people in it may be? I know it's around WW1 but when? Do the clothes of the ladies give any clues?

I'm not sure who actually colourised the photograph which is believed to have been children of the Akrill family who were born and lived in Beverley, East Yorkshire, England.

Between the two solidiers sit two ladies both of whom have wedding rings on so it's possible they are their wives.

The soldier on the left appears to have two badges in his left breast pocket which may be significant (?) for soldiers who have maybe been in a particular Battle or been a POW? Was it common for soldiers to wear badges in the breast pocket?

The uniforms (wrongly coloured) don't appear to suggest any particular Regiment.

The other ladies are thought to be the sisters of the two soldiers.

The only Army record I can find so far is for Percy Robert Akrill who was born 1897 and would have been only around 16 at the start of the war .... he didn't marry until he was 26 in 1923.

Can anyone offer any advice/help please?

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Re: Help to Date this Photo Akrill family
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 January 21 22:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Neil, this looks be have been taken Around the time of WW1. This would have been coloured by a colouring App, not very well either as there are areas that have been missed and the colours are patchy as  :-\
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Re: Help to Date this Photo Akrill family
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 January 21 10:29 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Help to Date this Photo Akrill family
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 January 21 10:57 GMT (UK) »
Still unclear to me:


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Re: Help to Date this Photo Akrill family
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 January 21 11:38 GMT (UK) »
This looks pre war. 1910ish.
The uniform adornments are not army issue.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
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Re: Help to Date this Photo Akrill family
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 January 21 13:53 GMT (UK) »
I think they all have a similar look apart from girl second from right.

Could they all be siblings? Does that tally with ages, number and sex of children that you know of for this family? They look to be fairly close together age wise.


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Re: Help to Date this Photo Akrill family
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 January 21 14:32 GMT (UK) »
If the photo includes Percy Robert Akrill who was b.c. 1899 on the last two censuses, he would have been 11-14 if it was pre-WW1 and none of the males look to be in that age group. It must be either a different family or the photo is later than 1914.

The women's clothing suggest 1910-1914 -ish


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Re: Help to Date this Photo Akrill family
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 January 21 16:22 GMT (UK) »
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Between the two solidiers sit two ladies both of whom have wedding rings
The girl seated is only about 15. You can see her skirt is shorter, so nobody's wife.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Help to Date this Photo Akrill family
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 January 21 18:08 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much everyone for your comments ... the photo has to be around 1914 ... could it be that the two in uniform were still actually at school where they also did some Army training very much like the Army Cadets of today? This may account for the 'badges'(?) in the breast pocket ... perhaps shooting/school badges (or the like )?