Newbie, looking for Thomas and Harriet Watson of Ripley Derbyshire.

[Erica1980]

Hiya all I have never used anything like this before so I do hope this is ok to post.
I have been browsing a while looking through topics.
I have been researching my family tree for a few months now and I have found lots of names and dates but that's about it really i have found lots on my Grandfathers side but nothing at on my Grandmothers all I know is birth and death but there is nothing else to find it seems.

I am Looking for Thomas and Harriet Watson of Ripley Derbyshire Thomas was born 1886 died 1958 and Harriet Watson born 1886 died 1934 they are both buried together but I have not been able to find anything more about them  and the family know nothing of them at all which is very intreging but frustrating to.
Harriet has (pem) written on her headstone after her name does anyone know what this could mean please?

[QueenoftheWest]

Hi Erica,

Welcome to RootsChat!

I noticed (from the National Probate Calendar) that Harriet's full name was Harriet Emma. From this, I think I have found the marriage record of Thomas & Harriet.

Year: 1909
Location: Basford, Nottinghamshire

Harriet Emma SMITH m. Thomas WATSON

Here they are in the 1911 Census with their daughter, Evelyn:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWSZ-4LB

(If you do not have an account on FamilySearch I suggest you create one because it is free and very useful)

I think the confusion stems from the fact they actually lived in Nottinghamshire but moved to Derbyshire at a later date.

Could you give us the name of one of Thomas & Harriet's children (who is deceased as per RootsChat rules) as then we can search for their birth certificate and confirm their mother's maiden name is in fact Smith.

Queenie 

[Erica1980]

sorry I missed that, they had 2 daughters Evelyn watson and Kathleen Brown I haven't used that site but have used others but haven't been able to trace Thomas at all. Thank you so much for any help 

[mazi]

As Queenie has found all of that, I will just add that the probate is an administration so there will be no further info. to be found there.

The marriage certificate will maybe help with harriets fathers name, useful if you are chasing Smiths

Mike

[Erica1980]

this is all new to me, what does it mean by administration? Thank you

[Tickettyboo]

Welcome to Rootschat :-)

I'm not sure about the (pem) on the gravestone - which cemetery/ graveyard are they buried in? - if you have a photo of the gravestone ( or a link to one) we could have a look and see if anyone has any suggestions.

Boo

[Erica1980]

this is the head stone of Thomas, Harriet and Evelyn.  thank you so much for your help

[mazi]

There is a Harriet Emma Smith birth registered in Basford reg. district March quarter 1886, Basford covers Gotham, a possibility but not found her in 1891 yet.

Thomas Watson is a bit more difficult, there are a few in Preston (lancs), but no Thomas living in bamber bridge in 1891, and none look obvious candidates to be a groom/ coachman in 1911

You may have to purchase that marriage certificate.

Mike

[mazi]

This looks like Harriet in 1891, she is transcribed as Harriet a smith in 1901.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:4C82-X2M

Mike