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Re: 1845 burial but no certificate
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 07 April 21 17:04 BST (UK) »
The burial register actually reads - On board a barge in the Rivers Thames & Medway. Perhaps on or around the canal? Chelsea seems unlikely.

The burial register records where someone lived ('Abode'), not where they died. This entry suggests that he was a waterman living on a barge who regularly plied those two rivers - which could easily include any parts of London adjacent to the river.
Agreed, watermen could have travelled anywhere between Rochester and the eastern Berkshire parts of the Thames. There is a deaths at sea register, now merged into the British Armed Forces and Overseas Deaths on findmypast, but he doesn't appear there
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-Records/british-armed-forces-and-overseas-deaths-and-burials

I agree that the Nathaniel Hadley could be him, even if the age and spelling differs slightly.

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Re: 1845 burial but no certificate
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 07 April 21 17:12 BST (UK) »
Wikipedia article on the Thames/Medway sailing barges: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thames_sailing_barge
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Re: 1845 burial but no certificate
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 07 April 21 17:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks ShaunJ; that looks to be an interesting read.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: 1845 burial but no certificate
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 08 April 21 10:37 BST (UK) »
Just spoken with Medway RO (very helpful) but he is not registered there. So perhaps he is the one at Chelsea......

As I am helping a friend I will ask if they want to risk 7 on a PDF.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: 1845 burial but no certificate
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 04 May 21 14:27 BST (UK) »
Update!

7 risked on a PDF......it is the right man!  Died on 1st July in Chelsea on his barge but not registered until 28th August......long after he was buried back in Rochester.
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: 1845 burial but no certificate
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 04 May 21 14:32 BST (UK) »
So worth the 7  :)  Always good to get a result.

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Re: 1845 burial but no certificate
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 04 May 21 16:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks for letting us know - good result.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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