Thomas Nevin’s Ancestors

[Maiden Stone]

Marriage of Thomas Nevin & Ellen Sruffin on 8 Mar.1859!
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633980#page/77/mode/1up (witnesses- Thomas Cooney?, Mary Sruffin)

I read letter after S in Ellen's surname as h. Letter after S in witness Mary's surname may be r or may be a faded h. Last part of "Maria" is a bit faded.
That's something else to consider with surname discrepancies; it may have been something as basic as faded ink. Writing with dip-pens was a tricky art. Using the correct pressure. Ink consistency was a factor - not enough water added to ink powder = cloggy ink, too much = faint writing.

[aghadowey]

Would you believe that I've found ANOTHER child of Thomas & Ellen Nevin!

Found Michael J. Nevin marriage (1895) to Mary Ward-
(https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24CV-T77 (parents transcribed as Thos. Nevins & Helen Druhan)
Birth of a son 10 days later-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27Y3-6R6

Michael & wife Mary in 1930 census with his sister Margaret Nevins- age 55, single, to US 1900-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4NK-HWX

Lots more, I think, but internet not working well today so may take a while to post again.

[Maiden Stone]

Michael & wife Mary in 1930 census with his sister Margaret Nevins- age 55, single, to US 1900-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4NK-HWX

Can't see a birth registration  for Margaret. She wasn't the Margaret birth registered Roscommon (Athleague) 1872 with parents Thomas & Ellen, maiden surname Kelly. That couple had more children.
I also searched for Margaret Nevin births 1870-79 without selecting a district and Nevin births registered with no forename in Roscommon district for same period.

Michael was probably the Michael born 1869 whose birth & baptism we found early on. His age was correct on 1930 census but not on marriage record.

Another common reason for surname variants are accents (Irish brogue). Less common factors may have been the person saying the name having a speech impediment or the clerk/priest/official being hard -of-hearing or taking down details in a noisy place. 

[Formernewyorker]

Amazing.

I am one of five children of Michael Nevin so always thought it was odd that my grandfather Thomas would be only child, now finding out he has four siblings so far unless more are found.

And because they settled in Brooklyn, NY where I grew up, there must be a lot of my relatives and their families roaming around.

Thanks

[aghadowey]

Possibly death of Thomas Nevin's first wife Winifred, his return to Ireland then remarrying caused the family to fracture so that his children didn't ever hear much about their America relatives.

Problems with finding birth details for the children are registration only started 1864, ages unreliable in later records, baptisms not easily found yet, locations could vary if family moved because of father's occupation.

Thomas Nevin & wife Ellen Shruhan seem to have had at least 6 children (so far) and there might be at least one more but I can't see anyway to get a date, etc.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HQR3-HHT2
Looks like an infant who died at sea/shortly after arrival? so presumably there should be its mother on board...

Added- got more on NY. relations last night before internet started acting up which I'll have to post later.

[aghadowey]

When Eliza Shruhan died at 2 years old in 1865, her uncle John Morris was present. So it looks like a Shruhan was married to a Morris.

Possibly same child? can anyone decipher whole entry (towards bottom right page)
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633981#page/183/mode/1up

And could this be same child (although age is 10 years out)?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGTW-21M

[Formernewyorker]

The register looks like Elizabethan Joannas Shruhan.  The middle name hard to read. Family search says she was born 1862. Died 1865 with Uncle John Morris

When Anne Shruhan born in 1851 died in 1875, Mary (Mariam Morris) was present.

[aghadowey]

The register looks like Elizabethan Joannas Shruhan.  The middle name hard to read. Family search says she was born 1862. Died 1865 with Uncle John Morris

When Anne Shruhan born in 1851 died in 1875, Mary (Mariam Morris) was present.

I don't see middle name for Elizabeth in the register. Format is child's name + father's name + mother's name, etc. without any punctuation between the names so I think second word is Latin version of John (father's Christian name).

Mary Shruhan, daughter of John Shruhan & Elizabeth Scully, married John Morris so is Elizabeth 1862-1865 is her sister... is the informant John Morris someone else?

[Formernewyorker]

So the register what I thought was middle name is father’s name correct?