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Winifred Humphrey Smith's maiden name
« on: Tuesday 18 January 22 08:56 GMT (UK) »
I am at a loss now on how to proceed to locate the maiden name of Winifred Humphrey Smith. I can clearly find her on the 1939 Register - she is with her husband Richard Humphrey Smith at 77 Carr Lane, Chorley, Lancashire.  She gives her birth date as 9 January 1910.  Annotated in green is the later name of Aspinall with a date of 1968, which I assume is her later married name. 

Richard died in 1957 at the same address, and is seemingly buried in North Berwick, Scotland (although this may just be a family memorial).  I think I have Winifred Smith marrying Edward Archer Aspinall in 1967 in Bolton, Lancashire, which would fit in with the green annotation of 1968 on the register.  I can then find a Winifred Aspinall dying in 2007, with a birth date given of 9 January 1911. Edward Aspinall had died in 1976, but at that stage her son Peter Humphrey Smith should have been alive (he died in 2012), but unluckily I can find no probate record, that might have linked this Winifred Aspinall with him. 

Other family trees have the Winifred Smith that married Edward Aspinall as living from 6 April 1915 to 1998, but I think they are all copying off each other, and from a Winifred Aspinall who also died in Bolton, but in 1998 - they have just jumped to the conclusion that this Winifred Aspinall is the right one. I might be wrong however!

I can find no marriage records that would fit a Richard Smith marrying a Winifred in the proper time frame.  I know they are married before 1934 (they are living together in Doncaster, Yorkshire according to the Electoral Register), and because of her age I assume after about 1928.  The only record that checks out is a Richard H Smith marring a Winfred Jones in Oswestry, Shropshire, but this is not them. 

Finally my question - what is Winifred's maiden name?  Where else might I go to research this?
Smith: East Lothian, Scotland
Mack: Berwick, Scotland
Fell: Yorkshire, England
Smeeton: Leicester, England
Haigh: Marsden, Yorkshire, England
Sullivan: Kerry, Ireland

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Re: Winifred Humphrey Smith's maiden name
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 January 22 09:34 GMT (UK) »
Might be of interest?:-
Mary C Humphrey Smith born Q2 1934- Leeds North District- mmn Ogle

Winifred Ogle marries Bailie R H Smith , Q3- 1930 in Leeds North District.


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Re: Winifred Humphrey Smith's maiden name
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 January 22 09:38 GMT (UK) »
This may be worth a look
Birth
Peter H Smith
3/1939
Chorley
mmn Ogle
Marriage
3/1930
Leeds North
Bailie R H Smith
Winifred Ogle
other Smith/Ogle births include a daughter M C born 1934 Leeds North and indexed under Smith and Humphprey-Smith.

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Re: Winifred Humphrey Smith's maiden name
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 January 22 09:43 GMT (UK) »
Quote "Peter Humphrey Smith should have been alive (he died in 2012),"
Birth

Births Jun 1934   
Smith    Peter H    mmn Brooks    Eton    3a   1732   

GRO ref

SMITH, PETER  HUMPHREY        
GRO Reference: 1934  J Quarter in ETON  Volume 03A  Page 1732

Death
SMITH, PETER  HUMPHREY     1934 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q4/2012 in NORFOLK  (642-1J)  Entry Number 507470065

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Re: Winifred Humphrey Smith's maiden name
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 January 22 10:12 GMT (UK) »
As usual I bow to people's superior search techniques! This looks very promising, although what is Bailie as a name? Not one I have seen anywhere else in the family. 


The 1939 register has Peter Humphrey Smith born in August 1939, and I now see this as an entry on ancestry too - maiden name is indeed Ogle.  Mary Christine Smith is there in GRO under Ogle as well, although I can't quite see her as Humphrey-Smith.


The Eton Peter is probably not them I am thinking as the maiden name is Brooks, although it is a bit distressing to find another Humphrey Smith family to muddy the waters... I thought this annoyingly variable to search upon family name was unique.
Smith: East Lothian, Scotland
Mack: Berwick, Scotland
Fell: Yorkshire, England
Smeeton: Leicester, England
Haigh: Marsden, Yorkshire, England
Sullivan: Kerry, Ireland

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Re: Winifred Humphrey Smith's maiden name
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 18 January 22 10:16 GMT (UK) »
If they are living in Doncaster in 1934, would Mary's birth be registered in Leeds North?
Smith: East Lothian, Scotland
Mack: Berwick, Scotland
Fell: Yorkshire, England
Smeeton: Leicester, England
Haigh: Marsden, Yorkshire, England
Sullivan: Kerry, Ireland

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Re: Winifred Humphrey Smith's maiden name
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 18 January 22 10:18 GMT (UK) »
Just found Mary C Humphrey-Smith on a cruise to Bermuda in 1962.  Birth was 16 April 1934 in Yorkshire.
Smith: East Lothian, Scotland
Mack: Berwick, Scotland
Fell: Yorkshire, England
Smeeton: Leicester, England
Haigh: Marsden, Yorkshire, England
Sullivan: Kerry, Ireland

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Re: Winifred Humphrey Smith's maiden name
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 January 22 10:32 GMT (UK) »
That's a very useful family tree! 
At this point I assume they are lying on the 1939 Register and Winifred's birth date is 9th January 1911 rather than 1910.  In GRO she is GRO Reference: 1911  M Quarter in HOLBECK  Volume 09B  Page 476, mothers maiden name Lupton.
Smith: East Lothian, Scotland
Mack: Berwick, Scotland
Fell: Yorkshire, England
Smeeton: Leicester, England
Haigh: Marsden, Yorkshire, England
Sullivan: Kerry, Ireland