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Information on James A. Hamon - BD abt. 1847 - Ireland
« on: Wednesday 09 February 22 19:53 GMT (UK) »
Hello All!  I am trying to find information about my great grandfather, James Alpheus Hamon BD abt. 1847.  Some U.S. census have him as coming from Ireland in the mid 1800s, and others say he came from the Isle of Jersey. I've not found anything on him from Jersey so I am trying Ireland!  He came to the U.S. in 1849 and settled in San Francisco, where I am from.  Thank you!  Elizabeth
Hamon: Jersey Island; Carr: Galway, Ireland; Rooney: Galway, Ireland; Gallick: Mexico; Knoblauch: Poland; Gumpert: Poland

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Re: Information on James A. Hamon - BD abt. 1847 - Ireland
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 February 22 20:39 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps he was born in one place and lived in the other.
Can you please indicate sources for each census. What is the earliest census you found him on?
Is 1847 his estimated birth year? Is that what "BD" means?
Registration of births in Ireland began 1864. Before then you're reliant on baptism registers, which, depending on place and denomination, may not exist. Do you know which religious denomination he belonged to?
What did he put as his nationality on censuses? Were parents or siblings with him on a census?  Were any of them born outside U.S. ?
Which record says he arrived in U.S. in 1849?
Did he move around U.S. or settle in San Francisco from the start?
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Re: Information on James A. Hamon - BD abt. 1847 - Ireland
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 February 22 20:54 GMT (UK) »
New York U.S Irish Immigrant Arrival transcriptions

3rd May 1849 ‘Typhis’ embarkation Jersey

Thom Hamon 33 yrs Mariner Native Country Great Britain
Caroline Hamon 30 yrs
James Hamon 2 yrs
Thos Hamon 3 months
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Re: Information on James A. Hamon - BD abt. 1847 - Ireland
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 10 February 22 08:17 GMT (UK) »
New York U.S Irish Immigrant Arrival transcriptions

3rd May 1849 ‘Typhis’ embarkation Jersey

Thom Hamon 33 yrs Mariner Native Country Great Britain
Caroline Hamon 30 yrs
James Hamon 2 yrs
Thos Hamon 3 months

Thank you.  Yes, this seems to be the most likely information.  I can't find where they went after this. Or any other information to validate this is my ancestor. 
Hamon: Jersey Island; Carr: Galway, Ireland; Rooney: Galway, Ireland; Gallick: Mexico; Knoblauch: Poland; Gumpert: Poland


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Re: Information on James A. Hamon - BD abt. 1847 - Ireland
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 10 February 22 14:00 GMT (UK) »
Any connection here - Thomas Hamon 1880 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6PV-8ZB

This indicates naturalisation 1850 NY

There is this record but it’s 1854

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVT7-T8C6

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Re: Information on James A. Hamon - BD abt. 1847 - Ireland
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 February 22 14:05 GMT (UK) »
Any connection here - Thomas Hamon 1880 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6PV-8ZB

This indicates naturalisation 1850 NY

This is a very interesting find.  I'll go down this path a bit.  Thank you!!

There is this record but it’s 1854

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVT7-T8C6
Hamon: Jersey Island; Carr: Galway, Ireland; Rooney: Galway, Ireland; Gallick: Mexico; Knoblauch: Poland; Gumpert: Poland

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Re: Information on James A. Hamon - BD abt. 1847 - Ireland
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 February 22 14:11 GMT (UK) »
Any connection here - Thomas Hamon 1880 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M6PV-8ZB

This indicates naturalisation 1850 NY

This is a very interesting find.  I'll go down this path a bit.  Thank you!!

James A. Hamon Snr. first born son (also James Alpheus Hamon and my granduncle) says on a 1920 US Census that his father was born in England. But then my grandfather says England on one census and Ireland on another.  I don't have any English DNA, but I do have 26% Irish DNA.  Not sure if that means anything.  James A. Hamon Sr's wife (my great grandmother) was definitely Irish - Delia Carr, although I don't have her parents birth records but there are numerous references to her being Irish.   

There is this record but it’s 1854

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVT7-T8C6
Hamon: Jersey Island; Carr: Galway, Ireland; Rooney: Galway, Ireland; Gallick: Mexico; Knoblauch: Poland; Gumpert: Poland

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Re: Information on James A. Hamon - BD abt. 1847 - Ireland
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 February 22 14:35 GMT (UK) »


Might be some further background info on this thread which helps.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=858524.0

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Re: Information on James A. Hamon - BD abt. 1847 - Ireland
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 February 22 14:39 GMT (UK) »
I haven’t read the previous thread so this might be there already

1850 census New York
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCYD-H9R
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