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Re: William Barr Affleck and Family
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 09 March 22 13:25 GMT (UK) »
William Affleck's military papers list his next of kin as John Coulter, brother, Dumbarton, and Annie, sister, in America.

John Coulter, illegitimate, aged 39, parents John Coulter and Ann Affleck, died in the City Poorhouse, Glasgow, on 19 September 1898.
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Re: William Barr Affleck and Family
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 09 March 22 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Commonly said in Ayrshire that Affleck is an alternative name for Auchinleck.
There is a mining town in east Ayrshire named Auchinleck after the Estate of the landed Gentry, the Boswells.
Think of Claude Auchinleck, famous soldier and an Irish connection with the Talbot family ( talbot = a big white dug) and the local football team is called Auchinleck Talbot, arguably the best at their level in Scotland.
Also the famous Boxer / Actor Rab Affleck from nearby Irvine.
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Re: William Barr Affleck and Family
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 09 March 22 16:05 GMT (UK) »
G F Black's The Surnames of Scotland says that the suname Affleck is of twofold origin (1) from the barony of Auchinleck in Ayrshire, and (2) from Affleck in Angus.

As trekcuber's Ann Affleck was from Ayrshire, it is reasonable to suppose that she was from the first.

For Affleck Castle see http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NO4938

There are several other places called Affleck
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ8623
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ5540
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ9148
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NS5220
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NS8442
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Re: William Barr Affleck and Family
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 09 March 22 19:58 GMT (UK) »
Ann also had a sister, Grace, didn't she? Born on 12 September 1866 in Ballantrae. She is not on the 1871 census and can't see a death for her so far.

ADDED: Andrew's death?

ANDREW AFFLECK
Age 0 (under 1 year)
1871
579/ 13
Ballantrae

And Grace's death:

Grace AFFLECK
Age 2
1867
579/ 30
Ballantrae

Mother's maiden name not showing on the index was throwing me off on the searches!

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Re: William Barr Affleck and Family
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 09 March 22 20:14 GMT (UK) »
Grace Affleck, aged 14 months, daughter of Anne Affleck, died in Ballantrae on 18 November 1867. The SP deaths index gives her age as 2 years and doesn't include her mother's maiden suranme - a very annoying practice of SP when the deceased is illegitimate.
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Re: William Barr Affleck and Family
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 10 March 22 01:35 GMT (UK) »
The SP deaths index gives her age as 2 years and doesn't include her mother's maiden suranme - a very annoying practice of SP when the deceased is illegitimate.

Maybe whoever done the indexing assumed if the mother was unmarried the surname shouldn't be included?

It might be worth inquiring as often things we complain about haven't been picked up on until it's brought to their attention (hopefully)  :-\

Even if it was the case of not being indexed it might give them 'food for thought' as there's more chance of someone buying the cert. when they're pretty sure of the connection than buying it if they're unsure?

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Re: William Barr Affleck and Family
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 10 March 22 08:56 GMT (UK) »
The SP deaths index gives her age as 2 years and doesn't include her mother's maiden suranme - a very annoying practice of SP when the deceased is illegitimate.

Maybe whoever done the indexing assumed if the mother was unmarried the surname shouldn't be included?
It seems to be SP's policy to omit the mother's maiden surname if she only had a maiden surname.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.