Stuck and Need help on 2nd great grandparents, Thomas Johnson and Fanny Wilmot

[mckha489]

I am quite sure the censuses detailed in Neale1961’s summaries at replies 52 and 53 are the correct ones

[mckha489]

I don’t think Margaret Wilmot ever married anyone.
She is using Williams as early as 1851 when Fanny is 2 mths old.
The girls are baptised as Wilmot with no father named in the baptisms

Yet she must have faked a husband for the birth entries to be the way they are.

[Jason Jase]

as for , ALBERT EDWARD WILMOT JONES he died young

Name   Albert Edward Wilmot Jones
Age   1
Birth Date   abt 1862
Death Date   abt 1863
Burial Date   28 Jan 1863
Burial Place   Wycliffe Church, Totterdown, Gloucestershire
Parish as it Appears   Wycliffe Church, Totterdown

[Neale1961]

JONES, ALBERT  EDWARD WILMOT    mother WILMOT 
GRO Reference: 1862  M Quarter in BRISTOL  Volume 06A  Page 46

This son died aged 1 in 1863. His death registration is available from GRO.

WILLIAMS, AMY    mother   JONES 
GRO Reference: 1865  J Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A  Page 238

This is a completely different family and in a completely different place. Nothing to do with Wilmot family.

This indicates to me that Margret's birth name is Wilmot  married someone last name
 Jones. (likely around 1850).
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Something happened with Mr Jones.
(probably not good)  between late 1861 -1865 or the Other option is Margret and Mr Jones got divorced.

The whole point in getting the birth certificates is to try to identify the JONES, so you might take the enquiry further. You will not know until you have those certificates.

[Jason Jase]

I am quite sure the censuses detailed in Neale1961’s summaries at replies 52 and 53 are the correct ones

Many things still need to be sorted out here

-This still is possible that she never married
-it is possible the 1841 / 1851 census that was found is correct and she moved a town over when she got pregnant and changed her last name to Williams.

-she could of been an escort and had the Children that way? She had 6 kids somehow
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-She could of also been married to a Mr Jones and left him while pregnant with Amy. She then could of changed her last name to Williams like she did in the mentioned Censuses.
-or Mr Williams could of been a real person     

-It is also possible that the marriage cert just hasn't been found yet.
-It is possible that she was married in a different country. I have seen that before on my tree.


 Either way it is a rather complex family structure.   

-I still would like to find Margaret Wilmot's parents it still wouldn't surprise me if her dad was an Edward Wilmot.



 

[Neale1961]

-I still would like to find Margaret Wilmot's parents it still wouldn't surprise me if her dad was an Edward Wilmot.

Jason, please go back and re-read the information contained in this long thread.
Margaret's Wilmot's parents have been identified.

[Jason Jase]

I have bought the cert for Fanny and will see if it has a fathers name one it.

[mckha489]

Did you not buy the £2.50 instant digital image?

[Jason Jase]

Ok just figure it out the Cert says her father was Edward Jones