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Re: Who are Peter's Parents?
« Reply #63 on: Friday 04 November 22 21:54 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Who are Peter's Parents?
« Reply #64 on: Friday 04 November 22 22:02 GMT (UK) »
With regard to my earlier post, you may want to look for K*rnan in Dunboyne around the relevant time period.
Some are sponsors, others are a spouse.
As you say, they may have crossed from the next parish or they may be unrelated. However, they were around Dunboyne at the same time as Peter.

Another parish adjacent to Dunboyne is Maynooth.
Maynooth R.C. parish, County Kildare
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0486
Baptisms registers from 1814, marriage registers from 1806.
Census returns we found for Bartle Kernan, Peter's son, stated that he was born in County Kildare. (On the thread about Bartle Kernan.)
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Re: Who are Peter's Parents?
« Reply #65 on: Friday 04 November 22 22:24 GMT (UK) »
We had this record for Bartle earlier on one of the threads
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635222#page/13/mode/1up

Kilcloon, Batterstown and Kilcock (adjacent to Dunboyne)
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Re: Who are Peter's Parents?
« Reply #66 on: Friday 04 November 22 22:41 GMT (UK) »

With regard to my earlier post, you may want to look for K*rnan in Dunboyne around the relevant time period.
Some are sponsors, others are a spouse.
As you say, they may have crossed from the next parish or they may be unrelated. However, they were around Dunboyne at the same time as Peter.

Another parish adjacent to Dunboyne is Maynooth.
Maynooth R.C. parish, County Kildare

Census returns we found for Bartle Kernan, Peter's son, stated that he was born in County Kildare. (On the thread about Bartle Kernan.)


We had this record for Bartle earlier on one of the threads
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635222#page/13/mode/1up

Kilcloon, Batterstown and Kilcock (adjacent to Dunboyne)

Yes. I wonder if the family lived or moved around near the border of Kilcloon and Dunboyne parishes and near the border with County Kildare, perhaps where Dunboyne, Kilcloon and Maynooth R.C. parishes meet. A pointy bit of Co. Kildare and Maynooth R.C. parish sticks out between Dunboyne and Kilcloon R.C. parishes. Residence wasn't mentioned in the church registers.
 
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Re: Who are Peter's Parents?
« Reply #67 on: Friday 04 November 22 23:44 GMT (UK) »
With regard to my earlier post, you may want to look for K*rnan in Dunboyne around the relevant time period.
Some are sponsors, others are a spouse.
As you say, they may have crossed from the next parish or they may be unrelated. However, they were around Dunboyne at the same time as Peter.

Dunboyne deaths register included abode. Began 1787. Examples picked out at random:
June 1790 Hugh Kiernan, Cornerstown? Comerstown?
April 1865 Mrs Bartle Kiernan, Prettanan?
I noticed a Peter Hughes died 1864. Heywood found a marriage of a Peter Hughes to a Neil.
Handwriting was neat in 1820s but degenerated to a scrawl by 1840s. Forenames of many married women and widows were omitted.
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0904 Microfilm 04176/04

I couldn't match a civil death registration to Mrs Kiernan in 1865. Was hampered by not knowing her forename and by death registrations in 1865 not yet being visible on Irish Genealogy. ie. I'm not sure which registration district covered the parish. Some registration districts in the area crossed county borders.
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Re: Who are Peter's Parents?
« Reply #68 on: Saturday 05 November 22 14:03 GMT (UK) »
What is the Maiden name of Anna? Is there a marriage entry for Thoma (Thoma is a variant for Thomas) and Anna? Probably married in Dublin.
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Re: Who are Peter's Parents?
« Reply #69 on: Sunday 06 November 22 19:53 GMT (UK) »
What is the Maiden name of Anna? Is there a marriage entry for Thoma (Thoma is a variant for Thomas) and Anna? Probably married in Dublin.

Do you mean the Anna, mother in Blanchardstown parish baptism register in your replies 54 & 57? It saves us time if you give context to your replies. I had to scroll back to find mention of somebody named Anna.
To answer your first question. Maiden surnames of mothers weren't included in the Blanchardstown register when those baptisms happened.
Have you searched for Thomas Kernan marriages to a woman named Ann or something similar? Blanchardstown marriage register began 1775. That's very early for Catholic registers in Ireland.
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0466
Blanchardstown R.C. parish is next to County Meath and very near County Kildare.
The family in Blanchardstown may be a red herring.
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Re: Who are Peter's Parents?
« Reply #70 on: Sunday 06 November 22 20:34 GMT (UK) »
I see there is a marriage, 6th August 1838, Blanchardstown for Peter Kearnan and Ann Brutton?
The residence is Hansfield which looks close to the Meath border.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633357#page/232/mode/1up

If he was the same Peter which you found, he would be around 40 years on this marriage which is possible.

However, it might just show that you are dealing with a surname found in that area.
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Re: Who are Peter's Parents?
« Reply #71 on: Tuesday 08 November 22 10:35 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to locate a marriage record of Thoma Kearnan and Anna (maiden name unknown). They had 5 children, Brigida, Margarita, Maria, Peter and another Brigida all in Blanchardstown. I've looked at the witnesses and doesn't really help my research for their marriage record. I do not know what happened after their last child, Peter (1797).

*The whole family was Roman Catholic

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