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Re: 1881 Burial in Camden.
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 21 July 22 22:46 BST (UK) »
Tentative possible? :-\
Marriages, June 1889 Edmonton 3a 479
Clayton, Elizabeth Ann
Sharp, George
The two other names on page 479 seem to pair off

1891, Islington
10 Ockenden Road
George Sharpe Head M 44 Clerk (Mercantile), born London Bloomsbury
Elizabeth Sharpe Wife M 39 Norfolk Kings Lynn

1901, Islington
61 Englefield Road
George Sharp Head M 54 Commercial Clerk, born London Bloomsbury
Elizabeth Sharp Wife M 49 Norfolk Kings Lynn

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Re: 1881 Burial in Camden.
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 21 July 22 22:52 BST (UK) »
Free index to 1911 census
Islington
George Sharp 64 Mercantile Clerk, born London
Elizabeth (Ann) Sharp 59 Housewife, born Kings Lynn Norfolk
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWG9-87J

They have missed her middle name on that free index.
I won't be really naughty and say how many years married!

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Re: 1881 Burial in Camden.
« Reply #20 on: Friday 22 July 22 06:36 BST (UK) »
Free index to 1911 census
Islington
George Sharp 64 Mercantile Clerk, born London
Elizabeth (Ann) Sharp 59 Housewife, born Kings Lynn Norfolk
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWG9-87J

They have missed her middle name on that free index.
I won't be really naughty and say how many years married!

Well done Jon think it would be worth while getting a copy of the marriage certificate to see what it says

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Re: 1881 Burial in Camden.
« Reply #21 on: Friday 22 July 22 11:11 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Rosie!

London Evening Standard, 22 Oct 1881
DEATHS.

Another one (attached)
Morning Post, 22 Oct 1881
CLAYTON —On the 18th inst., at Orton, Westmoreland, William
Eglin Clayton, of 31, Canonbury-park North, aged thirty-two
years.


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Re: 1881 Burial in Camden.
« Reply #22 on: Friday 22 July 22 11:17 BST (UK) »
The death announcements are coming thick and fast now!
Pall Mall Gazette, 21 October 1881.
CLAYTON, Mr. William E., of Canonbury Park
North, at Orton, Westmoreland, aged 32, Oct. 18.

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Re: 1881 Burial in Camden.
« Reply #23 on: Friday 22 July 22 12:07 BST (UK) »
Tentative possible? :-\
Marriages, June 1889 Edmonton 3a 479
Clayton, Elizabeth Ann
Sharp, George

Possible deaths?

GRO BMD references:
1913 Q2 Death - George Sharp; age 66 (born c1847); Islington; 01B; 359
1917 Q3 Death - Elizabeth Ann Sharp; age 65 (born c1852); Islington; 01B; 124

Electoral registers:
1897-1902 - 61 Englefield Road, Islington East; George Sharp
1904-1912 - 62 St Pauls Road, Islington East; George Sharp


The two other names on page 479 seem to pair off

Just to remove any doubt about the other pair...

St James's Gazette
11 Apr 1889
page 14
Marriages
Blaxall-Sales
- At Park Chapel, Crouch End,
- Edmund Arthur,
- son of Mr Thomas E Blaxall, Rendlesham, Hornsey-lane, N,
- to Evelyn,
- daughter of Mr Joseph H Sales,
- of Warncliffe Lodge, Crescent-road, Crouch-end, N,
- April 10
Anderson Banks Beard Brewer Caves Clarke Clinch Cooling Cuff Denton Gamble Gibson Gunn Hunt Mills Muncey Norris Notzke Reid Robinson Searle Smith Trundle Turner Weedon Wells Wilson

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Re: 1881 Burial in Camden.
« Reply #24 on: Friday 22 July 22 12:14 BST (UK) »
Another death announcement for William Clayton but with the incorrect middle name of Edwin.

Cumberland & Westmorland Herald
29 Oct 1881
page 5
Deaths
- Clayton
- At the Fleece Inn, Orton,
- on the 18th inst.,
- Mr William Edwin Clayton,
- of London,
- aged 32 years
Anderson Banks Beard Brewer Caves Clarke Clinch Cooling Cuff Denton Gamble Gibson Gunn Hunt Mills Muncey Norris Notzke Reid Robinson Searle Smith Trundle Turner Weedon Wells Wilson

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Re: 1881 Burial in Camden.
« Reply #25 on: Friday 22 July 22 12:35 BST (UK) »


As his estate was a reasonably valuable one, perhaps you could look in the Death Duty Registers?
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/death-duties-1796-1903/


Thanks for that.

I do have the Probate for him, which is on Ancestry.  He left everything to his wife Elizabeth Ann.

"late of Canonbury Park North in the County of Middlesex, Gentleman, who died 18th October 1881 at Orton in the County of Westmorland was proved by Elizabeth Ann Clayton sole Executrix.  Personal Estate:  £7,634 14s 1d."

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Re: 1881 Burial in Camden.
« Reply #26 on: Friday 22 July 22 12:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you everyone, especially Jonw65.  This information is what I have been searching for a long time.

Especially interesting is that Elizabeth Ann's second husband George Sharp lived at 62 St Paul's Road, Islington, between 1904 and 1912.  This address is where Elizabeth Ann's sister Rebecca lived, with her second husband Harry Thompson, sometimes her daughter Beatrice and family, and I think her son Herbert. Rebecca lived at 62 St Paul's Road on the 1901 and 1911 censuses and at her death in 1923;  1891 Rebecca was at Baxter Road with Harry (then a lodger), and children Beatrice and Herbert.

Maybe I should have twigged from the other people living with Rebecca's family on the 1911 census.  I had assumed it was an overcrowded lodging house, but maybe Rebecca owned it, and everyone there was family.

I never did manage to find any will or probate from Rebecca's first husband Samuel Alexander Park, or any money trail proving that he was indeed the father of her children Beatrice and Herbert.  Rebecca and Samuel married in 1884, and within months he was at sea again, as a Master Mariner.  To know how she was managing to pay her rent and feed her children would be informative.  Maybe Samuel left her enough to buy her house, or maybe her sister Elizabeth bought her house for her?  Samuel died 4th June 1894 of "Internal disease believed to be ruptured spleen", at sea, aboard the ship Wing Sang, probably while it was stopping at Singapore.