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Re: William King Fortt and Cousin William King Fortt confusion
« Reply #9 on: Monday 23 January 23 19:10 GMT (UK) »
One of the 2 marriage certs are needed to determine what fathers name is given for each William.

The marriage to Emma Bristow may have been in the USA so your easiest option is to buy the one to Ruth Fisk

If you look at the census entries for William & Emma - he is shown as William K Fortt & he died as William King Fortt on 12.4.1897.  He left a will & probate was granted to Edward George Blake occ plumber
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Re: William King Fortt and Cousin William King Fortt confusion
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 01:53 GMT (UK) »
According to FreeREG, the marriage to Ruth Fisk was at Ardleigh in Essex on 29 Sep 1847. She was a widow, father Thomas James (a miller). He is shown as William Forth, a widower from Bath and a confectioner. Father John Forth (a mason).

https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5817d58be93790eb7fa6b47a

So this William is one of the fathers, the one who was married to Mary Fisk. Ruth presumably being related to Mary by marriage. It doesn't help much with sorting out the sons.

It would seem likely that William King Fortt is the one whose mother's maiden name was King and that the other William never had the middle name.

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Re: William King Fortt and Cousin William King Fortt confusion
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 24 January 23 22:49 GMT (UK) »
One young William Fortt can be seen in the 1861 census at 5 Milsom Street, with his sisters Emma and Emily and cousin Sophia Fisk (head of household absent). He is a Confectioner's Assistant, aged 29, born in Bath and unmarried.

In the same census William K Fortt is at 33 Claremont Buildings, with his wife Emma and several children (one born in USA). He is a carpenter, 29 and born in Surrey.

That is enough to show that Emma's husband is certainly not the son of William and Mary and very likely is the son of John and Maria, (baptised at Southwark, Surrey in Feb 1832).

The other William seems to be living with his brother George in Islington in the 1881 and 1891 censuses, still unmarried. It looks like he never called himself William King Fortt (although there is a squiggle on the 1881 census which Ancestry have transcribed as a C, making him William C Fortt.)
(Oops, that's yet another William, perhaps son of Joseph and Amelia)


(5 Milsom Street is now part of a Waterstone's bookshop but in my youth it was Fortt's Restaurant. So it looks like it stayed in the family until the 1980s.)

David