Martin Winn's kids seem to have different mothers?

[osprey]

few more
Michael Winm march qtr 1877 Stockton vol 10a pg 129 mmn Forbus
Thomas Winn march qtr 1879 Stockton vol 10a pg 108 mmn Forbus
Elizabeth Winn dec qtr 1880 Stockton vol 10a pg 89 mmn Forbes
Mary Winn jun qtr 1887 Chester le Street mmn Forbes

marriage reg Martin Winn dec qtr 1864 Durham vol 10a pg 404 with Mary Storey on the same page
marriage 10 Dec 1864 at St Cuthbert's, Durham.

[JenB]

1861 Framwell Gate shows Mary Forbes, 14 yrs with parents Michael and Ann.

This fits with 1851 2391/558/28 and a marriage 1841 - Michael Forbes and Mary Parkinson.

However, although the other children have Parkinson as mother’s name, I can’t find a birth for Mary Forbes 

In 1851 Michael and Ann Forbes were living at New Cassop, with children John, Mary and William.

There is an 1844 baptism of Mary Ann Forbes, parents Michael & Mary (late Parkinson), abode Cassop, and also William in 1850, same parents, abode Cassop Colliery.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DZW3-31P?i=464&cc=1309819&cat=1809118

[JenB]

1861 Framwell Gate shows Mary Forbes, 14 yrs with parents Michael and Ann.

This fits with 1851 2391/558/28 and a marriage 1841 - Michael Forbes and Mary Parkinson.

However, although the other children have Parkinson as mother’s name, I can’t find a birth for Mary Forbes 

In 1851 Michael and Ann Forbes were living at New Cassop, with children John, Mary and William.

There is an 1844 baptism of Mary Ann Forbes, parents Michael & Mary (late Parkinson), abode Cassop, and also William in 1850, same parents, abode Cassop Colliery.

Ignore that one, it looks like she died in 1845.

This looks like her: Ferryhill, 8th September 1847, Mary daughter of Michael and Mary Forbes, abode Little Chilton, father pitman.

Edit  https://maps.nls.uk/view/102341650#zoom=6&lat=2658&lon=6980&layers=BT (just because I like maps)

[Seelife]

Hi Folks, sorry for the delay in responding.
OK, my error with John and William (born the same day = twins).
There was not a maiden name on my research. I assumed (sorry) that it was Mary Storey as this was the marriage I had with martin 1864.  Anns birth, 1872 has a maiden name of Story/Storey so I assumed that Mary Storey was the morther. Then everything changes and it is when I find the Forbus/Forbes as maiden name.

Is it possibel Mary Storey passed away?
Is it possible there are two marriages. I do not find a record of a Martin Winn=Mary Forbes marriage with my tools (FindMyPast, DRO, Myheritage, Gro.gov).
You mat be right that Mary Forbes is married, is there a source I am missing?

[heywood]

OK, my error with John and William (born the same day = twins).

See reply #5 John and William were not twins - different years.

Do you have different births?

[Seelife]

These are the records I have >
First name(s) John, Last name Winn, Place Sacriston, County Durham, Birth year 1867 Country England, Birth date ? ? 1867 Document type Parish Registers, Baptism year 1867, Record set Durham Baptisms Baptism date 28 Dec 1867, Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records, Father's first name(s) Martin, Subcategory Parish Baptisms, Mother's first name(s) Mary Collections from England, Great Britain Mother's last name Winn, Northumberland & Durham Family History Society, Transcriptions © Northumberland & Durham Family History Society

First name(s) William, Last name Winn, Place Sacriston, County Durham Birth year 1867, Country England, Birth date ? ? 1867, Document type Parish Registers, Baptism year 1867, Record set Durham Baptisms, Baptism date 28 Dec 1867 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records, Father's first name(s) Martin Subcategory Parish Baptisms, Mother's first name(s) Mary, Collections from England, Great Britain, Mother's last name Winn, Northumberland & Durham Family History Society, Transcriptions © Northumberland & Durham Family History Society

Ahhh / I see, its the same baptism date, that does not mean same birth date

[heywood]

Yes - they haven’t put the birth year on the baptism record.

It looks as though you need the detailed marriage information from a parish record or the registration  certificate.

[JenB]

It looks as though you need the detailed marriage information from a parish record or the registration  certificate.

Since you have the date and location for the Winn/Storey marriage you could get the parish record from Durham County Record office via their ‘quick search’ which is cheaper than buying from the GRO
https://recordofficeshop.durham.gov.uk/pgQuickSearch

[JenB]

These are the records I have >
First name(s) John, Last name Winn, Place Sacriston, County Durham, Birth year 1867 Country England, Birth date ? ? 1867 Document type Parish Registers, Baptism year 1867, Record set Durham Baptisms Baptism date 28 Dec 1867, Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records, Father's first name(s) Martin, Subcategory Parish Baptisms, Mother's first name(s) Mary Collections from England, Great Britain Mother's last name Winn, Northumberland & Durham Family History Society, Transcriptions © Northumberland & Durham Family History Society

First name(s) William, Last name Winn, Place Sacriston, County Durham Birth year 1867, Country England, Birth date ? ? 1867, Document type Parish Registers, Baptism year 1867, Record set Durham Baptisms, Baptism date 28 Dec 1867 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records, Father's first name(s) Martin Subcategory Parish Baptisms, Mother's first name(s) Mary, Collections from England, Great Britain, Mother's last name Winn, Northumberland & Durham Family History Society, Transcriptions © Northumberland & Durham Family History Society

Bishops transcript
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DH69-6LC?i=6&cc=1309819&cat=1810085