James Ernest Daglish 1868 - ?

[Schoch]

James was born in Gateshead in 1868 ( only found a baptism record of 7 Sep 1868, no cert of birth found yet).  He later married a Henrietta Grainger in1989.  They had at least 2 children;

James Ernest 1887 (born before the marriage,  obtained from various census) died 1918 (WW1), obtained from military records.Regimental # 15181 under name of Ernest Daglish.

Henrietta 1891- ?

Because father/Son have the same names there seems to be a confusion over their deaths.  Others (in Ancestry) indicate that both died on the same day 29 Mar 1918  (unlikely). Also James senior would be 50 yrs old and on the front lines (again unlikely, I think, thogh I may be wrong here).

Can anyone help me sort this out please?

Finding James senior's death date would solve the conundrum I hope.


Thanks for any suggestions.

Richard

[Comberton]

Is this the correct family ?

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Gateshead
Henrietta Daglish Head 1870 Newcastle Upon Tyne     ***married
Henrietta Cummings Daughter 1891 Gateshead      married
Doris Cummings  Granddaughter  1916 Newcastle Upon Tyne

You would need to buy the image to make sure the transcription is correct.

[Schoch]

Thanks,

Yes the daughter Henrietta did marry a Robert Cummings in 1916 I believe.  But it is her father James  Ernest Daglish that I am trying to find a death date for. Did he die in 1918, or was it his son who died then?

[Comberton]

Could this be the junior James?
www.findagrave.com/memorial/190508522/james-ernest-daglish
Gro shows age 56
Other name on grave is Mary Elizabeth Daglish died 1961, marriage 1913 NUT James E Daglish and Mary E Smith and a child that may clinch it.
James Ernest Grainger Daglish
1916 Gateshead mmn Smith

Ernest Daglish death 29 Mar 1918, record has address 41 Amelia Street NUT
Free search for 41 Amelia Street NUT***1921 census
Margaret Daglish 1869 and children with mmn Taylor. There is a birth of Ernest Henry, not present in 1921 so may be his death.

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Gateshead
James Daglish 1887 Newcastle Upon Tyne
Mary Daglish 1892 Morpeth
James Daglish 1916 Gateshead
Richard Watkin 1853 Gateshead

[hanes teulu]

WWI Prisoners of War    https://grandeguerre.icrc.org

FindMyPast has the record but if you don't have access to FindMyPast -

Pop "dalglish" (no initials) in Name, select Nationality "British Commonwealth" and Status "Military". Hit Search  and tab down to 6th entry.
If you position the cursor over the record it offers "Addnl Info about this person". This is in German but has been translated on the record you first see under PA 22161

[Dundee]

James was born in Gateshead in 1868 ( only found a baptism record of 7 Sep 1868, no cert of birth found yet).

If you want a birth cert you have to buy it.

DAGLISH, JAMES  ERNEST
Mother's maiden surname: FORSTER     
GRO Reference: 1867  D Quarter in GATESHEAD  Volume 10A  Page 651

Debra 

[hanes teulu]

James Ernest Dalglish, birth registered 1867 is present on the 1891 Census with Henrietta but does not appear with her on any Census after that although she continues to describe herself as "married". In 1911 she declares "married 24 years".

[wivenhoe]

Using Briitishnewspaperarchives.com

Newcastle Daily Chronicle  15 May 1918 p5

 Mr. end Mrs. 41. Amelia Seseef, Newcastle, here bees informed that their one, Pte. Pzneet. E, Degifal, L•inaler Itairtmeat. has been reportod mlenag ...

This is a pay site, with just enough information available free to encourage you to pay for better look.

If the DAGLISH at 41 Amelia is recorded as "son of" you might think tht he is not married.

[hanes teulu]

I spotted the death notice of Margaret Daglish, 41 Amelia Street, in 1926 - aged 56 (b 1970). This is the address that appears on the prisoner of war record I posted under "Dalglish" - note the spellings. But it names his mother as "H Dalglish". Could the "H" be a typo for "M".
 
I have also just found a prisoner of war record for "Daglish 15181".

Will check Wivenhoe's find