Jonothan Jones b 1834 Cefn, Denbighshire

[nestagj]

I’m looking for Jonathan Jones b. around 1834 parents I believe to be Thomas Jones and Mary ?.

I don't have a public tree on A* but will try to pop one up later this evening when I'm on my own laptop.

I can find him in the later census’ as well as his marriage on the 5th June 1853.   I do not have the cert as I only found it today but I’m pretty sure he’s the right one.

The children I have seen are Thomas, 1856, Mary A 1859, Edward 1862 (my OH great grandfather), Elizabeth, 1864, Miriam 1867, Jonathan 1870 and Ishmael 1870.
   
I’ve been able to track Edward’s family down to the present day as we are lucky enough to have an Aunt who is still alive in her 90’s and is happy to chat about the Jones’ family.   For info my OH descends from Edward’s son David Hughes Jones born 01/04/1900.  I've already discovered that one of Edward's sisters married another sisters husband after her death - how do I put that in A* .   

Have also been able to go back a couple of generations on Edward’s wife side as the marriages are in the parish registers and one of her witnesses was her sister.  Parents were I believe John and Jane Hughes in the Llantysilio Parish.

Anything you can find out I would really appreciate – I know that there are a few censuses missing around Ruabon but not sure which ones.

PS - the areas seem to be Cefn and Ruabon in Denbighshire and Pentredwr, LLantysilio, Denbighshire with a few of the really early ones around Corwen, Merionethshire.

Thank you very much
Nesta

[Gadget]

The 1841 census is missing for the area and some pieces are missing in the 1861.

Gadget

[Cas (stallc)]

There is this family 1851
Ruabon, Denbighshire, Wales
Piece: 2503, Folio: 177, Page Number: 50

Address Cefn Mawr?

Mary Jones   31, glyn cerrig, Denbighshire   (Glyn Ceiriog?)
Jonathan Jones   16 Ruabon
Ismael Jones   13 "

Added: image looks like age 51 for Mary, see reply #10 & # 11 below.

Cas

[Gadget]

There is a non-conformist baptism that could be him

Cefn Mawr, Wesleyan Methodist
21 August 1834  - Jonathan the son of Thomas Jones of Cefn Mawr and Mary his wife  in the parish of Ruabon in the county of Denbigh

[Cas (stallc)]

Name:   Ismael Jones
Birth Date:   04 Jun 1837
Baptism Date:   26 Jun 1837
Baptism Place:   Cefn Wesleyan Methodist,Cefn-Mawr,Denbigh,Wales
Father:   Thomas Jones
Mother:   Mary Jones
FHL Film Number:   0518977 (RG4 3487)

[Cas (stallc)]

Ishmael original bapt states father Thomas Jones of Cefn bychan, Ruabon, collier and Mary his wife daughter of Beynion & Elizabeth Jones.

Cas

[Gadget]

Cefn Bychan is to the SW of Cefn Mawr. It's lower down toward the river and  between the aquaduct and the viaduct.

https://tinyurl.com/ycx2746a

Gadget

(I used to see it every week day from the school bus on the way to Llangollen)

[Cas (stallc)]

I wonder if this could be their marriage it is around 5 miles from Glyn Ceirog

Name:   Thomas Jones of Llangollen, bach
Marriage Date:   22 Apr 1831
Marriage Place:   Llanarmon Dyffryn Ceiriog, Denbighshire, Wales
Residence Place:   Llangollen
Spouse:   Mary Jones, spinster
Both signed X
Thos & Edward Jones witness
Page number:   17

[Gadget]

Mary is shown as being born Glyn Ceiriog in 1851 so Llanarmon D C is quite possible. It's further up the River  Ceiriog   to the SW of Glyn.

Ah -Sorry,  I didn't see you mentioning the distances when I posted. I had Jones ancestors from there