Ancestor from Ayrshire but where is Wintocks?

[Forfarian]

That is exactly why Reply #16 above tells you that the records of the estate of the Earls of Loudon are in the Burns Monument Centre in Kilmarnock.

[Bev64]

Andrew Youngs second wife was Mary Montgomery married in 1827 so perhaps that is a clue to the area being once Wintocks

[Bev64]

Montgomerie family is the wife of Andrew's second wife. The Andrew Donald also mentioned was mentioned in the letter my family mailed between each other

[loobylooayr]

Hi

It is very possible the Montgomerie family at New Intax Farm in 1841 are related to Mary Montgomerie/Montgomery, Andrew Young's second wife. There don't seem to have been many Montgomerie/Montgomery about Loudoun at this time. Add to that the mention of Andrew Donald at the Little New Intax.
The above Montgomerie family are in Glasgow by 1851.
107 John Street
   MONTGOMERIE       William       Head       M       M       45       Cowfeeder        Ayrshire - Riccarton           
     MONTGOMERIE       Jean       Wife       -       F       42               Ayrshire - Riccarton           
     MONTGOMERIE       Janet       Dau       -       F       15               Ayrshire - Loudoun           
     MONTGOMERIE       Jean       Dau       -       F       13               Ayrshire - Loudoun           
     MONTGOMERIE       Hugh       Son       -       M       11       Scholar        Ayrshire - Loudoun           
     MONTGOMERIE       Isabella       Dau       -       F       6       Scholar        Ayrshire - Loudoun   

Did Andrew Young have children with Mary Montgomerie? If so, what were their names, please?
I'm wondering if they had a Hugh and/or an Agnes.

Looby        
    

[Bev64]

Andrew Young & Mary Montgomery married 1827 in Loudoun Parish
Hugh Young b:c 1827-1828 Scotland
Agnes Young b:c 1831 Scotland
John Young b:1836 New Brunswick Canada
Andrew James Young b:1839 New Brunswick Canada
Mary Young b: 1841 Binbrook Ontario Canada
Jane /Jean Young b:1842 Binbrook Ontario Canada

[loobylooayr]

Following on from my last post.

There is a Hugh Montgomerie aged 80 a farmer born outside the county of Ayrshire and an Agness Montgomerie aged 69 , also born outside the county, living at Alton Farm in Loudoun Parish in 1841.

Also a Thomas Montgomerie aged 30 with a wife Mary and daughters Helen, Agnes and Mary at Alton Farm on same Census.

Alton Farm is in the same area as New Intax.

I think these people will be connected to William Montgomerie.

Looby

[Bev64]

I believe or think that Mary Montgomery father was Hugh Montgomery and mother Agnes Orr.  Still have to prove 100% and being in Ontario Canada is more difficult confirming the facts.

Hugh Young b:c1827 Scotland would be my 3x great grandfather died here in Ontario
Agnes Young b: c1831 Scotland also died here in Ontario as well


I have a William b:c 1821 Scotland and William Young b:unknown.  Both headstone were beside other Young family members but can not find the link to who or how they fit into the Young tree yet. I am thinking that sons to Andrew and Margaret Shields the 1st wife.

[loobylooayr]

Andrew Young & Mary Montgomery married 1827 in Loudoun Parish
Hugh Young b:c 1827-1828 Scotland
Agnes Young b:c 1831 Scotland
John Young b:1836 New Brunswick Canada
Andrew James Young b:1839 New Brunswick Canada
Mary Young b: 1841 Binbrook Ontario Canada
Jane /Jean Young b:1842 Binbrook Ontario Canada

Thank you for those names.

I suspect Mary Montgomerie was the daughter of Hugh and Agness Montgomerie of Alton Farm.  The fact that they have named their first daughter Agnes (very often Scots named first daughter after her maternal grandmother) appears to support that. Usually first son is named after paternal grandfather and second son after maternal grandfather - of course, in this case both men could've been called Hugh! 
And naturally, not all Scots followed the 'naming pattern' - so you can't always rely on this to identify.
William and Thomas look to be sons of Hugh and Agness and therefore, probably Mary's brothers. You would need to find recorded documents - parish records to definitely establish above.
 William and Thomas  were born in the parish of Riccarton according to the 1851 Census - so perhaps Mary was too?

Looby

[Bev64]

Thanks for the thoughts on Thomas and William but they can't be Mary brothers because both have last name of Young on their cemetery stones. 

I was aware of the naming order of the children, I have found this quite helpful during the building of the tree.

Thomas died here in Ontario 1854 and William in 1864.  Where did you find the Census 1851 ? Ancestry or is there a free site. Currently I only have Ancestry.ca since most of the family reside here in Ontario.