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Re: Crawford Gaol aka Wellington Prison - and an incorrigible rellie
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 02 May 23 20:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Carol

... do you know if Timothy had a sister who lived in Victoria AUS, say around 1914 to 1918 ???

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Re: Crawford Gaol aka Wellington Prison - and an incorrigible rellie
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 02 May 23 20:22 BST (UK) »
Well done both!

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Re: Crawford Gaol aka Wellington Prison - and an incorrigible rellie
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 02 May 23 20:58 BST (UK) »
I know Lu :'(

Knowing the childhood history, it is no wonder he has emotional/behavioural issues.  But throughout it all, he seemed to remain non-violent and continued to struggle with his obviously all encompassing addiction(s). 

I suppose on the plus side, he survived much longer than I would have anticipated given his life story and struggles. 


Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ

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Re: Crawford Gaol aka Wellington Prison - and an incorrigible rellie
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 02 May 23 21:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jo! 

I am very happy to have put Tim back into the family history... despite his struggles, he deserves to be there and, hopefully, viewed with empathy:)

Lu - I don't know, but give me a bit to run a check on the sister's.

Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ


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Re: Crawford Gaol aka Wellington Prison - and an incorrigible rellie
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 02 May 23 21:01 BST (UK) »
Thanks mckha

... but you helped too ... every comment and snippet contributed, "is grist to the mill".    :)

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Re: Crawford Gaol aka Wellington Prison - and an incorrigible rellie
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 02 May 23 21:04 BST (UK) »
Lu, as far as I know there were 5 sister's and they are all accounted for in NZ
Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ

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Re: Crawford Gaol aka Wellington Prison - and an incorrigible rellie
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 02 May 23 21:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks Carol.   

I'll have to try another angle with my continuing "investigation .    ;D

[As at 1938 - I've found four daughters in Johanna MURPHY's Will. ]

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Re: Crawford Gaol aka Wellington Prison - and an incorrigible rellie
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 02 May 23 21:44 BST (UK) »
This is what I have...just not sure of a couple of their marriage details which I have been working on.

One of the daughter's mother's name is spelled incorrectly which may be an issue.  But I know she existed and was the oldest (Annie)

Murphy   
Annie 1879/5808   Johannah   Daniel    (The mother's name should be Johanna)
Johanna Ellen 1887-1955 1887/1526
Florence “Florie” 1888-1962  1889/17900   tbc
Catherine Mary Josephine 1883-1936    1883/694
Margaret Agnes 1892-1975  1892/10285

Catherine Mary would have died by 1938...
Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ

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Re: Crawford Gaol aka Wellington Prison - and an incorrigible rellie
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 02 May 23 21:51 BST (UK) »
They'd record his death under his birth name right?
Johnston - New Zealand; Scotland
Brookes - New Zealand; England
Morris- Liverpool Lancs, UK; New Zealand
Hatter - Wiltshire UK; Otago New Zealand
Ainslie & Strachan - Midlothian, Scotland; New Zealand
Paull -St Agnes, St Columb Minor Parish Cornwall; South Africa; New Zealand
Gould & Reece- Stroud, Gloucestershire UK; New Zealand
Oakly - Australia, NZ; UK
Downes -UK; Australia; NZ
Kinghorn - Jamaica; England; Scotland
Murphy - County Kerry, Ireland; NZ