Help finding Martha & Joseph W. Hodgetts

[rosie99]

In 1871 Martha is at home in Brightside Bierlow with her parents Jonathan and Sarah Ann and siblings
RG10
Piece  4694
Folio 10
Page 16

She is not with them in 1881
RG11
Piece  4660
Folio 102
Page 20

Her parents marriage
Marriage Dec qtr 1854   
Stringer    Jonathan       
Wood    Sarah Ann       
Rotherham    9c   610    

Martha's brother Henry's birth reg
STRINGER, HENRY    mmn    WOOD 
GRO Reference: 1867  June Quarter in SHEFFIELD  Volume 09C  Page 470

I wonder if she was actually Martha Jane 
STRINGER, MARTHA  JANE     mmn WOOD 
GRO Reference: 1864  Sept Quarter in SHEFFIELD  Volume 09C  Page 384

[rosie99]

There is a Joseph Hodgetts born Brierley Hill in 1891 with a 10 year old son Albert in Uttoxeter.  Joseph is Married but no wife with him.  Can't see him anywhere else

[rosie99]

I presume this is who you are referring to 
Wed 24 Jul 1940 
MR. W. HODGETTS.
Mr. William Hodgetts died on Wed-
nesday, after a long illness, aged 75. He
was born at Staffordshire, England, and
came to Australia at the age of 25. He
was engaged in mining at Wallarah more
than 40 years ago, and was in business in Cessnock.
He is survived by his wife and three
children, Mrs. J. Conlan , Mr William Hodgetts ,
and Mr. Joseph Hodgetts ................


Presumably as he is including Elsie (Conlan) as one of his children then his other children were William and Joseph - where were they born - what information is given for their mother

[dellp22]

*another list with the same people has different ages
Ann 35
Elizabeth 10
Elsie 6
Louisa 22

Interestingly I have a DNA match for someone's tree that has a Lousia Hodgetts B:1875 D:1948 in NSW.
The Louisa listed on this passenger list could be her.
Ages for Elsie and Lousia match.

I will have to wait a while to get Elsie's marriage certificate.

Thank you to everyone who was helped out so far. Lots more research to be done.

[Dundee]

Those shipping lists are often wrong, I have seen people change sex between departing and arriving.

Louisa was already married and had two children who were both females but the arrival of the ship into Victoria has her surname as HOGGETTS, wife, two children not named, one female aged 2 and a half, and one male aged 1.

Debra 

[dellp22]

Those shipping lists are often wrong, I have seen people change sex between departing and arriving.

Louisa was already married and had two children who were both females but the arrival of the ship into Victoria has her surname as HOGGETTS, wife, two children not named, one female aged 2 and a half, and one male aged 1.

Thanks Debra. The DNA that I am linked to in a tree is for Lousia Hodgetts - 2 children born in Chestershire? and her next child born in Australia (1900). Her eldest childed died in Aus...  Not sure why she would have traveled with her maiden name though. Her married name was Whitehouse. To be fair I could be looking at the wrong people completely. There is no way of knowing for sure...

Gives me something more to research since I recently solved a 12yr long mystery for another family member in the tree. 

[wivenhoe]

Inquest Joseph HODGETTS    (warning...grim reading)

Newcastle Morning Herald and Miner's Advocate   7 Aug 1906 p5
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/136223455?
....William HODGETTS, son of deceased, deposed that his father was 53 years of age, and was born in Eckington, Staffordshire. He was a widower. He was engaged at Brown's colliery at Minmi as an
engine-driver........

BDM NSW death
HODGETTS Joseph  9450/1906   parents John / -    @ Minmi

[wivenhoe]

Newcastle Morning Herald and Miner's Advocate 24 Jul 1940 p6
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/139373552?

Further to reply #11  obit for William HODGETTS died July 1940 -

* wife and three children, Mrs. J. CONLAN (East Maitland)
   Mr William HODGETTS (Cessnock),
   Mr. Joseph HODGETTS (Swansea).

Pall-bearers William HODGETTS (grandson)
   William HAWKINS (brother-in-law)
   W. Gibson (nephew)
   P. Convery.

Mr. Hodgetts went to Swansea about 12 years ago, and went into business. Later he retired, and moved to Bridge Street, Swansea. 

Newcastle Sun 17 Jul 1940 P2
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/167457765?
HODGETTS.—The relatives and friends of Mrs. W. HODGETTS, senr., and family are invited to attend the funeral of their beloved husband and father, William HODGETTS, to move from his late residence, Bridge street, Swansea.........Church of England Cemetery, Wallsend

I think this is your William HODGETTS -

NSW BDM
1595/1903 HODGETTS  William    marr.  FENWICK   Mary I  @  Newcastle

births
27310/1896  HODGETTS Robert W parents William / Minni I       @ Woonona
11294/1898  HODGETTS Joseph L  parents William / Mary I        @ Catherine Hill Bay

Newcastle Morning Herald and Miners Advocate 24 May 1941 p3
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/139405392?

Mr. William HODGETTS, a son of the late W. HODGETTS, of Cessnock, and Mrs. HODGETTS, now of Swansea, died at his home at Cessnock at the age of 44. Mr. HODGETTS had lived at Cessnock all his lifetime. He was the oldest employee at Belllird colliery. Mr. Hodgetts leaves a wife and two
sons, William and Clifford............Cessnock cemetery.

[Dundee]

....William HODGETTS, son of deceased, deposed that his father was 53 years of age, and was born in Eckington, Staffordshire. He was a widower. He was engaged at Brown's colliery at Minmi as an
engine-driver........

Joseph definitely wasn't aged 53.  It would be interesting to see if he is that age on the death cert and if so how they work out the math for age at marriage and the ages of his children.

Debra