Martin of Tipton

[angel~eyes]

There is nothing like taking the wrong branch in a tree and ending up in the 1500s for 25+ years. I'm totally devastated that this has happened to me. Mainly because someone gave me a MC of the parents of my Great Grandparents or so I thought. My Dad passed away during the pandemic and I'm trying to put his tree into a memory book.

Please can you help I'm looking for the marriage of John Edward Martin b 1872 in Tipton to Ellen Goodman possibly around 1892 (going on info from 1911 census) I know they lived in the St John's area of Dudley later on but unsure where they married.

Also the marriage of William Martin b 1828 Tipton and Ann Armstrong b 1833 (she gives various places mainly Shropshire) they would have got married early 1850s or possibly before, I believe that if its the right John Edward he was their youngest child.

Thank you in advance all help is much appreciated x

[rosie99]

In 1901 Benjamin Goodman is living with the family, Ellens father age 66 born Brierley Hill

In 1891 Ellen and Benjamin are in Dudley

[angel~eyes]

Thank you yes her father was Benjamin so this is correct. I have 2 possible fathers for John Edward - the one I have researched John b 1843 and the new possible William b 1828. The reason I'm now doubting is he was always known in the family as John Edward and he had a son , grandsons, great grandsons all called John Edward. The reason I had researched John was because I had been given a marriage cert for his father John so had looked for MMN. I  am usually on these things but this was overlooked x

[rosie99]

Where do you have John Martin on census prior to his marriage

[angel~eyes]

There is a John on 1881 census with William and Ann living Charles Passage and a John on 1881 census with John and Elizabeth living Dudley Port x

[rosie99]

The John with John and Elizabeth is still with his parents in 1891
...
Baptism 20 Nov 1872
John Edward Martin
Tipton, Stafford, England
Parents William & Ann Martin

[angel~eyes]

John Edward and Ellen's first child b 1893 not found any before then x

[trish1120]

I saw that bapt also but only Marriage I can find is to Ann CARTRIGHT 06 Feb 1853 Worcs.

Gro has;
MARTIN, JOHN  EDWARD     ARMSTRONG 
GRO Reference: 1872  D Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 63
MARTIN, JOSEPH       ARMSTRONG 
GRO Reference: 1869  J Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 44

[angel~eyes]

That's a thought I wonder if she had been married to a Mr Cartwright. Thanks Trish x