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Westminster vs Islington
« on: Thursday 21 September 23 10:57 BST (UK) »
I am looking in the 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses for Mary Hollist Heppell, who married William Masson Wilson in Chelsea in 1880. She was born in Islington in 1851, parents Lionel Charles Heppell and Mary Ann Baxter or Heppell, and she may be the one who died in Brentford in 1916.  Her husband was born in Bothwell, Lanarkshire in 1859 and died in Edinburgh in 1884. They may be the parents of Louise/a Masson Wilson, born 1883 in Pancras and died 1899 in Westminster.

In 1881 she is listed as Marry Wilson, aged 25, born Islington, living with her husband in Willesden.

In 1911, there is a Mary Wilson, widow, 61, in Chelsea Hospital, birthplace given as Westminster.

Not being familiar with where Westminster ends and Islington begins, is it possible that the one in Chelsea Hospital is the one I am looking for?
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Re: Westminster vs Islington
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 21 September 23 11:01 BST (UK) »
There's a very big difference between Islington and Westminster.

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Re: Westminster vs Islington
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 21 September 23 11:11 BST (UK) »
GRO online shows mmn for Louise Masson Wilson was Heppell
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Re: Westminster vs Islington
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 September 23 11:11 BST (UK) »
There's a very big difference between Islington and Westminster.
Yes, I understand that. Hence my question.

Do they have a mutual boundary? In terms of the registration districts of these names, did they include areas that are not generally regarded as being in the the area to which the name is informally applied? Were any areas in one ever transferred to the other? Is Mary's birthplace in 1911 an error, or could there have been some confusion?
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Re: Westminster vs Islington
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 September 23 11:13 BST (UK) »
The burial of Louisa has her address as 10 Haydn Park Road, Shepherds Bush.
I cannot find that street in either 1901 or 1891

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Re: Westminster vs Islington
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 September 23 11:14 BST (UK) »
GRO online shows mmn for Louise Masson Wilson was Heppell
Yes, that is where I found it.

I have not seen the birth certificate so I cannot yet be 100% sure that William Masson Wilson and Mary Hollist Heppell were her parents as there are other male Wilson/female Heppell marriages in the index at FreeBMD.
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Re: Westminster vs Islington
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 September 23 11:16 BST (UK) »
Louise was only baptised 29.6.1896 St Luke Shepherds Bush

Father William W Masson Wilson mother Mary Hollist Wilson
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Re: Westminster vs Islington
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 September 23 11:17 BST (UK) »
The burial of Louisa has her address as 10 Haydn Park Road, Shepherds Bush.
I cannot find that street in either 1901 or 1891
Thank you.

Does Shepherd's Bush come under Westminster RD?
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Re: Westminster vs Islington
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 September 23 11:17 BST (UK) »
Louise was only baptised 29.6.1896 St Luke Shepherds Bush
Father William W Masson Wilson mother Mary Hollist Wilson
Thank you :)

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