James Johnston, death, July 23,1881 Allegheny City, Pennsylvania

[Peggy13]

Hello. James Johnston died July 23,1881 in Allegheny City, Allegheny Co., Pennsylvania and his wife was Jane Orr. His father was Matthew but I don't have his mother's name. Hoping that a death certificate or an obituary might reveal that. I do have many children for James and Jane but I don't know which ones were surviving at his death, and where they might be and who their spouses were.
Thanks for any help
Peggy

[*Sandra*]

Someone will correct if wrong but  statewide registration did not start until 1906 

Registration of Deaths, Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, 1893-1905, Index.

Statewide registration of deaths in Pennsylvania began in January 1906. Records prior to 1906 were kept by the individual counties or cities under various laws and time periods.

[*Sandra*]

Is this the family in 1880 ? Coleman Street, Allegheny, Allegheny, Pennsylvania.  ??

James Johnson   55   Self (Head)
Jane Johnson44 Wife
Elisabeth Johnson 23 Daughter
George Johnson 19 Son
Hanna Johnson 15 Daughter
Maggie Johnson 12 Daughter
Samuel Johnson 10 Son
John Johnson 7 Son

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/124355898/james-johnston

1870 census    Allegheny Ward 1, Allegheny, Pennsylvania

James Johnson   48
Jane Johnson 36
Elizabeth Johnson 13
George Johnson 9
Nannie Johnson 5
Maggie Johnson 2

1860 census    Allegheny Ward 1, Alleghany, Pennsylvania.

James Johnston   28
Jane Johnston 25
Elizabeth Johnston
Jane Johnston 1
Nancy Hutchinson 46
Thomas Caskill 43
Ann Caskill 36

Are Nancy Hutchinson, or Thomas and Ann Caskill related ?

Nothing in the naming pattern to help with clues - no Matthew. First son seems to be George. 

Although they are lodging with Matthew McWhinney in 1850

Allegheny Ward 1, Allegheny, Pennsylvania.

Mathew McWhinney 35
Sarah McWhinney 30
Thomas I McWhinney 7
Sarah I McWhinney 5
Eliza A McWhinney 3
Henrietta McWhinney 1
Thomas Hair 22
John Hair 20
Samuel Hare 19
James Johnston   23
Jane Johnston20

Added  - Sarah McWhinney was maiden surname Anderson. No Johnston connection with Sarah

The Pittsburgh Post
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 
Sat, 23 Jun 1906
Page 5

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-pittsburgh-post/147496084/

[*Sandra*]

IF above was correct -this was Jane (Orr) Johnston  obit 1905

The Pittsburgh Press
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania · Saturday, 18 March 1905

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-pittsburgh-press/147486382/

Added Noticed an ancestry tree with a photograph of Jane Orr  (if you are subscribed) and some others

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/111477206/person/222117939922/facts

[shellyesq]

This may be the death record for son George, since he wasn't mentioned in Jane's obituary - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:H5HQ-D3W2

Obituary for son John - https://www.newspapers.com/article/pittsburgh-post-gazette-obituary-for-joh/147490582/

Obituary for son Samuel - https://www.newspapers.com/article/pittsburgh-post-gazette-obituary-for-sam/147490957/

Last surviving sibling from that generation appears to be Nana Green, who lived to 102 with various survivors, including one great-great-grandchild - https://www.newspapers.com/article/pittsburgh-post-gazette-obituary-for-nan/147490905/

[Peggy13]

Hello Sandra, thank you for all this wonderful information. You have definitely found the right family, judging by the names of the children. And the right obit for Jane, whose death I had as 1906 but it was 1905. That was a fabulous find and it had a lot of good information.
They reportedly had a daughter Ann in 1856 who’s not on the 1860 so must have died young. Same with Jenny born about 1859 who is on the 1860 but not the 1870 or 1880. Son James born about 1862 is not on the 1870.
Nancy born about 1865 would be Hanna on the 1880 and Nannie on 1870. Probably the enumerator heard wrong in 1880. Nancy is the one who married John Ballentine Green obviously after 1880. Elizabeth is the one who married Samuel Balzer Rheam, senior so they must’ve had a son Samuel.
James and Jane had a son John McClelland Johnston, July 13, 1873 and James also had a brother John McClelland Johnston born abt 1825 but I don’t know if his brother John McClelland Johnston emigrated and I don’t have a date of death for brother John although son John died Mar 6, 1931 in Pittsburgh. Daughter Elizabeth Rheam died July 24, 1923 and I do have her death certificate. Son Samuel G Johnston reportedly died 1918.
Thanks again, Sandra.
Oh, I have just seen your latest posting of deaths and obits. I will check them out and get back to you.

[shellyesq]

Son Samuel's death certificate is here - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLYT-FKS

The image is here - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99G1-HZ89?i=1133&cat=749833

[Peggy13]

Once again, Sandra, you have found the right people and the right dates of death. I was obviously wrong with regard to Samuel and I never would’ve looked for his death in New Mexico. His year of birth was 1870 though which is verified by the various censii. Thanks for the death certificate.
Thanks also for the dates of death of George and Nancy. Nancy certainly lived to a ripe old age.
James and Jane had a daughter Margaret about 1867 who died about 1885.
Thank you, Sandra.

[shellyesq]

I'm not Sandra, but you're welcome.