Keogh

[heywood]

Here is John Kehoe in Ballygorteen in the 1911 census. He is unmarried and with his sister, Mary.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kilkenny/Tiscoffin/Ballygorteen/528327/

Their ages are consistent with the 1901 entry
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kilkenny/Tiscoffin/Ballygorteen/1451889/

[terryt]

Thank you Heywood, That is good the puzzle pieces are starting to connect.

Kind Regards
Carol Thomson

[heywood]

It is puzzling.
That John is unmarried so is not the one who married Ann Whelan.
You have some records in Kilkenny and some in Wicklow.

On a published tree, I can see a marriage certificate for Ellen Keogh and John O’Callaghan in Australia where her parents are Thomas and Bridget Brophy and birth Paulstown and a witness is Annie Brophy so that confirms the details you have for her in Kilkenny.


Added
On that marriage record, Ellen is recorded as 23 yrs in 1888. This would make her born about 1864 /65. This discrepancy maybe because her husband is 24 yrs at the time but you also wrote that ‘the three girls put their ages back’ when they emigrated.

[terryt]

Bridget Brophy arrived in Brisbane in May 1880 and married John Carroll in November 1880. John
was also from Paulstown. Elizabeth baptised in 1857 arrived in 1882 and married Denis O’Leary
in 1886. Ellen was baptised in 1859. There could be more children who were born to Thomas and
Bridget. I have tried to find Annie Brophy but so far have not been able to trace her. She was
probably a cousin. The Brophy family lived in Carrigeen.

Kind Regards
Carol Thomson

[heywood]

Yes I have seen those.
What about the Kelsha connection you mention e.g.thr births and the marriage of John  Kehoe and Anne Whelan.
They seem unlikely given the other records /places you mention.

[terryt]

I was never fully convinced that Patrick was part of my Keogh family but with the parents names the
same and Thomas also being a farmer. Finding the marriage for John to Anne Whelan I thought
maybe I was wrong. Also going from Kilkenny to Wicklow and back again did people do that back
then especially if they were farmers. The census records you sent confirmed that John and Mary
were Thomas and Bridget’s children.

I have the death records for Thomas and Bridget and I also found Mary’s. Is there anymore
additional information on the death certificates?

Kind Regards
Carol Thomson

[heywood]

Here is the death of Mary Kehoe - 1921. Is that the one you have?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05089/4397373.pdf
The informant is Mary Brophy, cousin, also of Ballygurteen.

The indexes show a death for John Keogh, 67 yrs, 1919 but the image which is linked in not the right one.

There are no Brophys in Ballygurteen in 1911.
There is a marriage Thomas Brophy and Mary Mullins in 1915.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1915/09804/5559647.pdf

This couple have children with residence Ballygurteen and Mary Mullins is living there with her family in 1911.

I wonder if she is Mary, the cousin? Her mother was Cantwell so maybe the Brophy surname is the connection.

May I ask how you know that Thomas and Bridget from Ballygurteen are the right couple?

[terryt]

That is same record that I found for Mary and I did see a record for John but with the wrong link.
On Bridget’s death record Martin Brophy was present at her death. Martin was Bridget’s brother.
The Brophy’s came from Carrigean.

Kind Regards
Carol Thomson

[heywood]

  And Thomas Brophy’s father is Martin Brophy