Author Topic: Wilsons (Culfeightrin / Ballycastle in County Antrim) (Read 3566 times)

aghadowey · « **Reply #36 on:** Tuesday 16 July 24 14:58 BST (UK) »

James (4) Walsh (c1856/c1858 Co.Derry?-aft.1911) m.(10 Apr.1879 Christ Church COI, Castlerock) Margaret McCauly (c1856-aft.1911)
Bapt. https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633142#page/49/mode/1up (James Walsh, 15 July 1863 Culfeightrin), parents- Edward Walsh & Susan Tyler
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1879/11065/8048073.pdf
1901 Census- Shotts, Lanark: James Welsh, 42; Maggie Welsh, 42; Lizzie Welsh, 20; Edward Welsh, 17; William Welsh, 14; Sarah Welsh, 12; Evilene Welsh, 7; James Welsh, 5; Jeanie Welsh, 3; Martha Welsh, 0.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Articlave/Articlave_Upper/587966/ (m.30 yrs., 10 ch./9 liv.)
Elizabeth McAuley died 21 May 1913 Killyveety (informant- son-in-law James Walsh)- https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1913/05337/4486210.pdf
1. Sarah Walsh (1880 Ballywildrick) Is this Lizzie?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1880/02877/2054142.pdf
2. Lizzie Walsh (c1881-aft.1901). Originally registered as Sarah?
3. Edward (4a) Walsh (1882 Ballynacally) m.(1904) Margaret McCarron
4. Susan Walsh (1884-1901 Shotts dist.)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/cert_amends/cert_1884/1992378a.pdf
Death: 1901 Susan Welch, 17, mother- McAuley, Shotts dist.
5. William (4b) Walsh (5 Sept.1886)
6. Sarah Walsh (1889) m.(1909) Thomas McCarron
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1889/02489/1923375.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1909/10006/5639036.pdf
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Downhill/Ballymadigan/588395/
1. Child (d.bef.1911)
2. William Stewart McCarron (12 July 1911)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01522/1617818.pdf
3. Annie McCarron (1913)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01456/1594622.pdf
4. Elizabeth Margaret McCarron (1913)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1913/01456/1594622.pdf
5. Thomas McCarron (1914)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01406/1578062.pdf
6. Herbert McCarron (1917)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01322/1546523.pdf (father- soldier)
7. Lydia Walsh (1893). Is this Evelyn?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02297/1861581.pdf
8. Evelyn Maude Connor Walsh (c1894) m.(16 Mar.1911) John Lynch. Originally registered as Lydia?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09936/5612287.pdf
9. James Walsh (1895-aft.1914)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02198/1830731.pdf
Ballymoney Free Press, 12 Feb.1914: summoned Janes Welsh, jun. … all of Articlave, for, as alleged, trespassing with dogs in pursuit of game on the lands …
? Belfast Telegraph, 16 May 1936: An incident at Articlave had a sequel when District-Inpector Robinson applied to have James Walsh, Ballywildrick, bound to the peace. Walsh was also summoned for being drunk and disorderly. Constable Leonard said defendant asked him about another …
10. Jane “Jennie” Walsh (1898-1979 Ayr dist.) m.(1917) James Spalling
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02099/1799709.pdf
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1917/09743/5535306.pdf
1. James Spalling (1918)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1918/01274/1528591.pdf
11. Martha Walsh (1900 Shotts dist.-23 Jan.1913)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1913/05346/4489116.pdf
12. Samuel Walsh (1903 Shotts dist.) m.(20 June 1923) Jessie Tosh
Ballymoney Free Press, 18 Oct.1917: Children’s Court. Sergeant Hutchinson, Castlerock, summoned Samuel Walsh, a young person, by his father, James Walsh, Articlave, for on the _th ult., driving an unlighted vehicle on the public road after dark. A fine of 6d …
Larne Times. 25 July 1925: After The Ball Was Over. Sessions on Friday morning, before Mr. T. G. Houston, M.A. (presiding), and other magistrates, Je__ie Walsh, Blackbush, Castlerock, summoned her husband, Samuel Walsh, Upper Articlave, for maintenance. Complainant stated that on their way home from a dance about four months defendant, to whom she was married June, 1923, kicked her, pulled her …

aghadowey · « **Reply #37 on:** Tuesday 16 July 24 15:04 BST (UK) »

aghadowey · « **Reply #38 on:** Tuesday 16 July 24 15:14 BST (UK) »

William (4b) Walsh (5 Sept.1886 Articlave?-31 Dec.1939 Holywell Asylum, Antrim) m.(1907) Rachel Platt/Farran (c1888)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10088/5669543.pdf
Londonderry Sentinel, 23 Apr.1908: Castlerock. Yesterday afternoon a special Court of Petty Sessions was held in Coleraine, at which a young man named William Welch, of Upper Articlave, Castlerock, was charged by _, Coleraine, with the larceny of a watch, the property of …
Coleraine Chronicle, 29 Aug.1908: Childs Painful Story … the Coleraine Town Hall in Saturday morning, before Mr. A. G. Crawford, J.P., … Wm. Welch, a labourer, belonging to Killyveety, near Castlerock, was charged by District-Inspector with having on the 18th and 20th f August committed a criminal assault on one Eliza Jane Anderson, Articlave, a girl under fourteen years of age. The mother of the child …
Northern Whig, 8 Dec.1908: Criminal Business. … William Walsh, who pleaded guilty to assault, upon a little girl in Londonderry, was sentenced to five years’ penal servitude. His Lordship observed that the prisoner had been guilty of the most serious …
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Articlave/Articlave_Town/588076/ (Rachel & daughter Esther)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Queen_s_Co_/Maryborough_Urban/Borris__Little__Part_of_Dublin_Street_/792032/ (Maryborough Prison, Queens Co., W.W., male, married, Co.Derry)
Child of William & Rachel-
1. Esther “Hessie” Walsh (7 Aug.1907-aft.1911)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01691/1671499.pdf
Children of Rachel-
2. Lizzie/Elizabeth Walsh (1915)- mother Rachel Walsh. Family.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01382/1568289.pdf
3. Samuel Walsh (1918)- mother- Rachel Walsh
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1918/01274/1528591.pdf

It looks like William and Rachel split up (possibly in 1908?). William was sentenced to 5 years after the trial, not sure if he had to serve full term. After this Rachel had 2 illegitimate children. I think a son John was mentioned on other thread?

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William died in Antrim Mental Hospital on 1/1/1940 having been there from September 1938.
He lived at Leitrim near Ballymoney from 1930 (at least).
He had 3 children to my grandmother, William (b.5/10/1923), James (b.14/3/1928) and Edward (my late father b.30/8/1930).

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=346752.0

I'm not sure if William and Rachel divorced or if she died before 1923. Also not clear if those three children (born 1923-1930) were legitimate (or if William was just in a relationship with their mother)

aghadowey · « **Reply #39 on:** Tuesday 16 July 24 18:38 BST (UK) »

Now the Wilsons you mentioned ...

John Wilson (d.bef.1918), farmer, m.(14 Dec.1854 Rasharkin Presbyterian Church) Elizabeth Cairey/Carey/Keery (c1828-1918 Magheraboy)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1854/09463/5428949.pdf (groom- son of John farmer, bride- Cairey)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Killoquin_North/Drumcon/946625/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Killoquin/Magheraboy/130097/
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1918/05174/4427663.pdf
1. John Wilson (17 Nov.1865 Drumcon)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03555/2309012.pdf (son of John Wilson & Eliza Carey)
2. John Wilson (1868-28 Mar.1920 Magheraboy), Magheraboy, m.(16 Mar.1893 Portglenone 2nd Presbyterian Church) Mary Pinkerton (c1868-aft.1920)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03444/2264472.pdf (son of John Wilson & Eliza Keery)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1893/10584/5855992.pdf
Administration of the Estate of John Wilson late of Magheraboy, Rasharkin, Co. Antrim, Farmer, who died 28 March 1920, granted at Belfast 6 September 1920 to Mary Wilson, the widow. Effects: £110 0s 0d.
1. Samuel Wilson (c1894-aft.1911)
2. Alice Wilson (23 Dec.1895 Drumcon-aft.1920)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02186/1827127.pdf
3. Elizabeth “Lizzie” Wilson (13 Jan.1898 Druncon-aft.1911)
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02098/1799338.pdf
4. Sarah Wilson (c1901-aft.1911)
5. Nancy Jane Wilson (c1903-aft.1911)
6. James Wilson (c1905-aft.1911)
7. William Wilson (c1907-aft.1911)
8. Maggie Wilson (c1909-aft.1911)

KrisWilson · « **Reply #40 on:** Tuesday 16 July 24 22:55 BST (UK) »

Thank you so much for this incredible research aghadowey, can't begin to thank you enough for this!

I've working my way through it all and logging it in my records/tree so much information there.

Where would be best to find links to the newspaper clippings you found? (Ballymoney Free Press, Londonderry Sentinel etc.)

Thank you for looking into that John Wilson, I'm not sure if this is the correct John Wilson as William Wilsons mother was Elizabeth Wyllie I was hoping to work back from that and find a Wyllie.

I have been searching for the death of an Elizabeth (MS:Wyllie) Wilson or hoping to stumble across a birth with an Elizabeth (Previously Wyllie) listed as a mother if William happened to have any siblings.

KrisWilson · « **Reply #41 on:** Wednesday 17 July 24 01:07 BST (UK) »

Quote from: aghadowey on Tuesday 16 July 24 15:14 BST (UK)

Children of Rachel-
2. Lizzie/Elizabeth Walsh (1915)- mother Rachel Walsh. Family.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01382/1568289.pdf

This is a strange one, as I have a two 2nd-3rd cousin DNA matches on Ancestry for a mother and daughter who are linked to Lizzie Walsh on their tree with the same information as above and have William listed as the father.

aghadowey · « **Reply #42 on:** Wednesday 17 July 24 08:40 BST (UK) »

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This is a strange one, as I have a two 2nd-3rd cousin DNA matches on Ancestry for a mother and daughter who are linked to Lizzie Walsh on their tree with the same information as above and have William listed as the father.

Both those children registered as illegitimate with no father mentioned (mother Rachel not informant for Lizzie's birth but she was for Samuel's). It could still be that William was the father but she didn't want him on the certificate. Another possibility is that one of William's brothers was the father of one or both children. Equally possible that William and Rachel were living apart and William was the father but informant didn't know 1) who the father was and 2) that they were married.

The newspaper snippets were found on Find My Past (subscription site but every once in a while they have free access).

KrisWilson · « **Reply #43 on:** Thursday 18 July 24 01:26 BST (UK) »

I have some new information on Williams Wilsons sister, I found through chatting with an ancestry DNA match:

Williams details again for ref:

William Wilson Marriage 1869
In Culfeightrin, County Antrim, Northern Ireland on 26 Jan 1869
William Wilson Age: Full (Residence: Ballreagh, Culfeightrin) Occupation: Miner
Martha Welsh Age: 18 (Residence: Drumnakeel, Culfeightrin)
Wiliams Father: John Wilson (Occupation: Miller)
Witnesses: Hugh Welsh & Fanny Jane Welsh

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1869/11407/8188729.pdf

Williams Wilsons Sister:

Mary Jane Wilson Marriage 1871
In Ballymoney, County Antrim, Northern Ireland on 24 Jan 1871
Mary Jane Wilson Age: Full (Residence: Devrock, Derrykeighan, Dunluce Lower, Co Antrim)
Patrick McCullagh Age: Full (Residence: Devrock, Derrykeighan, Dunluce Lower, Co Antrim)
Mary Janes Father: John Wilson (Labourer)
Patrick McCullaghs father: Patrick McCullagh (Chimney Sweep)
Witnesses: Robert Steele & Robert

?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11367/8173352.pdf

Mary Jane Wilson Census 1901
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Bushmills/Bushmills_Town__part_of_/943450/
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000293334/

My match on ancestry mentioned that their linegage goes through their mother to Patrick McCullagh and Annie McGaghey, and through Patrick to his father Patrick McCullagh married to Mary-Jane Wilson. They were based in and around Bushmills, though some of their children might have been born in Coleraine district. Both Patricks were chimney sweeps and their life was tough and improverished.

Mary Jane Wilson was based in Devrock, Derrykeighan, Dunluce Lower, Co Antrim at the time of marriage.

Not sure if these details may help in finding John Wilson and Elizabeth Wylie, but it's good to know he had a sister.

aghadowey · « **Reply #44 on:** Thursday 18 July 24 08:43 BST (UK) »

I would take the occupation for John Wilson listed as a miller on William Wilson's 1869 marriage- it might just be that he worked at a mill of some sort rather then being an actual miller.

The marriage of Mary Jane Wilson took place in Ballymoney Registry Office-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11367/8173352.pdf
Second witness possibly Robert Nevin. Notice that the first witness was Robert Steele and he was also at the next marriage so perhaps what I call a perpetual witness (someone near the Registry Office who could nip in and serve as witness if needed).

The townland and village of Dervock isn't that far out of Ballymoney-
https://www.townlands.ie/antrim/dunluce-lower/derrykeighan/dervock/dervock/

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