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Re: Looking for info regarding James Barr, Dalry
« Reply #36 on: Monday 18 November 24 11:46 GMT (UK) »
My apologies, as Alexander & Isabella were the only Barr family in Ochiltree in 1901
I made a wrong assumption.

Below were on the 1911 census at Ochiltree

The cert for Isabella states she was the widow of Hamilton Barr, Coal Miner parents Joseph Thorburn and Janet. They were married Paisley in 1885, some children born there but their youngest child was born Ochiltree in 1904

As this was the only Alexander on the 1911 census, I thought he was the husband of Isabella Martin but at a different reference number, not 609/6/17.

ALEXANDER BARR 1911 50 609/ 6/ 16 Ochiltree Ayr. No other Barr's at that reference.

As regards this Alexander Barr, ploughman, married to Isabella Patterson Marshall parents Alexander Barr and unknown mother. I cannot trace him or his marriage in Scotland or Ireland?


Whilst checking the records I came across this death. Daughter of Alexander & Isabella?

ISABELLA MARTIN BARR, age 101 mmn MARTIN
1991 682 / 50 Old Cumnock.

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Re: Looking for info regarding James Barr, Dalry
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 20 November 24 15:24 GMT (UK) »
I downloaded the birth certificates for Louisa, William and Robert, on both certificates they have completely different dates for their parents marriage - is this common?

Roberts certificate

February 1881, Dromore

Louisa

31st December 1874 Dromore

When we know Isabella and Alexander married 29th November 1878

Can't make it out on William's certificate have asked SP to re-scan.

I've now got the re-scan of William's birth certificate and it also gives his parents Alexander Barr Ploughman & Isabella Barr nee Martin Married February 1881 Dromore  ???

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Re: Looking for info regarding James Barr, Dalry
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 20 November 24 17:31 GMT (UK) »
I've now got the re-scan of William's birth certificate and it also gives his parents Alexander Barr Ploughman & Isabella Barr nee Martin Married February 1881 Dromore  ???
So Alexander couldn't remember the date when he was married, or he got mixed up, or the registrar wrote it down wrong.

I have some families where every birth certificate gives a different date for the parents' marriage.

As the couple's names and place of marriage match, then the chances are it's the right marriage.
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Re: Looking for info regarding James Barr, Dalry
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 20 November 24 17:34 GMT (UK) »
I've now got the re-scan of William's birth certificate and it also gives his parents Alexander Barr Ploughman & Isabella Barr nee Martin Married February 1881 Dromore  ???
So Alexander couldn't remember the date when he was married, or he got mixed up, or the registrar wrote it down wrong.

I have some families where every birth certificate gives a different date for the parents' marriage.

As the couple's names and place of marriage match, then the chances are it's the right marriage.

Thanks, yes that’s what I’m thinking too.