Drunk and disorderly: further info?

[stevelord65]

Found this in the Balmain Observer and Western Suburbs Advertiser from 8th June 1889:

"Thomas Robison for being drunk and disorderly, was ordered to hand over 10s, 4s 10d costs, or do 48 hours"

I have a hunch this could be my Great Great Grandfather, am wondering if there are any court or police records available anywhere that might give more details?

Thanks,
Steve, Auckland NZ

[sparrett]

I don't see any further information at the usual sources for this offence.

There is an offence for a man of the same name in 1895.
He was released on bail from Darlinghurst Gaol on a charge of false Pretences.

Are you seeking more general information on him, or just this particular event?

Sue

[wivenhoe]

This is not a criminal offence....no need for witness statements, prosecutor making a case etc.
Any court record would give very little information.

Who are you looking for?

[shume]

There is a death notice for a Thomas Robison, died 1920 Granville, Sydney parents Robert and Annie.
Is this your man?

[stevelord65]

Yes shume that's him I was hoping that court records might give me an address for him and maybe his profession.
He arrived in Australia in 1874 aged about 34 leaving a wife and two children back in England, and died in Rookwood asylum, Sydney in 1920. I have no idea where he was or what he was doing in the 46 years in between...     

[maddys52]

Do you have the 1920 death certificate? What does it have for his occupation?

[shume]

Whoever gave the information on his death certificate knew his parents names ( unless he gave the asylum this information when admitted). Have you traced his wife or other members of the family as the Rookwood cemetery has an additional 3 Robison burials. Its quite an unusual name.
He gives his occupation on passenger list 1874 as farmer: Do you know where he lived on 1871 UK census as this helps with background, wife's name etc.
Rookwood asylum patient records are closed for 110 yrs from 1919 according to NSW State records.

[stevelord65]

Thomas's wife Mary-Jane, her son Robert, and her daughter Elizabeth (my great grandmother), all stayed behind in England. In 1871 Thomas and family were living at 1 Grove road, Liverpool, his occupation was cattle salesman. I think I've found him on a passenger list arriving in Melbourne in July 1874, but am not totally certain that was him (name & age match but no other details are given)

[stevelord65]

Actually his 1920 death certificate lists occupation as cattle salesman doesn't it... So it's a reasonable assumption that that's what he was doing the whole time he was in Australia.