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Mary Ann Tonks, Maria Brooks & Elizabeth Cooper
« on: Friday 06 December 24 17:39 GMT (UK) »
In the 1851 census Mary Ann Tonks, Head, not married, (40) is living in Hollum, Kingswinford. Schedule 39 Page 9 Folio 569.

Living with her are Maria Brooks, Sister, married, (36) and family, Josh 36, Joshua 11, Elizabeth 8, and Edward 6.

and Elizabeth Cooper, Sister, married (63) and family. Joseph 62 and his granddaughter Sarah 18.

The ages of the sisters are 27 years apart which is a long time.

Can anyone see the marriages of the two sisters ?
and any clue which would link the three sisters, Mary Ann, Maria and Elizabeth?

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Re: Mary Ann Tonks, Maria Brooks & Elizabeth Cooper
« Reply #1 on: Friday 06 December 24 18:28 GMT (UK) »
1851 is really messy. Apart from Mary Ann Tonks  every one else is transcribed as Browley,
Relationships are given .




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Re: Mary Ann Tonks, Maria Brooks & Elizabeth Cooper
« Reply #2 on: Friday 06 December 24 18:34 GMT (UK) »

1841Kingswinsford
Piece 996 Book15 Folio26 Page number10
Could be mother Mary.

Mary Tonks72 widow Y
Mariah Tonks30 Y
Mary Ann Tonks25 Y
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Re: Mary Ann Tonks, Maria Brooks & Elizabeth Cooper
« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 December 24 18:41 GMT (UK) »
Marriages Dec 1848   (>99%)
BROOKS Joseph  Dudley  (Joshua).?
  TONKS Maria  Dudley 

There are others on the same page
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Re: Mary Ann Tonks, Maria Brooks & Elizabeth Cooper
« Reply #4 on: Friday 06 December 24 19:40 GMT (UK) »
1841 Hanley. Staffordshire
Piece990 Book9 Folio9 Page number11

Joshua Brooks31*
Elizabeth Brooks32
Mary Brooks6
Olive Brooks3
Joshua Brooks1*

Ages not always accurate in 1841
Marriage would be before 1837 so no certificate.


Olive Brooks20 Birth Dateabt 1838
Marriage Date29 Nov 1858Marriage PlaceBucknall, Staffordshire, England
FatherJoshua Brooks
SpouseDavid Ball

I'm not sure where I'm going with this, but father and son match, Olive is missing in 1851 ,
wife is Elizabeth in 1841
No Birth registrations found for the children to confirm mmn.
Could Maria be a second marriage.

Not sure if this complicates things so I'll stop now.


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Re: Mary Ann Tonks, Maria Brooks & Elizabeth Cooper
« Reply #5 on: Friday 06 December 24 19:52 GMT (UK) »
I’m sure you are correct. You found  Maria married Josh Brooks in 1848 and the children listed in the 1851 census were born previous to the marriage.

I also found 1841 Halesowen, West Brom. Josh Brooks 1816, Ann 1817, and Josh 1841

Both Ann and Elizabeth look possibilities !

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Re: Mary Ann Tonks, Maria Brooks & Elizabeth Cooper
« Reply #6 on: Friday 06 December 24 20:23 GMT (UK) »
Joseph Brookes married Eliza Homer 3 June 1838 Dudley Worcs.

His father Edward Brookes

Her father Joshua Homer
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Joshua reg June quarter 1839 mother's maiden name Homer (bap 10 June 1839 Brierley Hill)

Elizabeth Brookes reg. 1842 Stourbridge - born 6 August 1842, bap. 25 September 1842 St Mary Kingswinford.

Edward Brookes reg December 1844 Stourbridge Union mother's maiden name Homer
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Eliza Brookes death reg. 1847 age 26 at Stourbridge.
 

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Re: Mary Ann Tonks, Maria Brooks & Elizabeth Cooper
« Reply #7 on: Friday 06 December 24 21:55 GMT (UK) »
Married at 17 and dead within 10 years ….. tough times. Thanks for the info. 

So who did Joseph Cooper marry and when.?


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Re: Mary Ann Tonks, Maria Brooks & Elizabeth Cooper
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 07 December 24 01:15 GMT (UK) »
1841 Census
Joseph Cooper 50  Miner
Elizabeth Cooper 50
Sarah Cooper 9
Charles Bate 20   Sawyer
Hannah Bate 20
Harriet Bate 1
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Charles Bate married Hannah Cooper 1843 although they present as married 1841.