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Re: photo of mgrory family 1866
« Reply #27 on: Friday 20 December 24 09:39 GMT (UK) »
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Also on the back of the photo i found faint text that reads:Yours truly Lurene Fox. Michael McGrory had a daughter Lurena and who was sister to Teresa McGrory, but I can't find any confirmation if this Lurene Fox who signed the photo is Lurena McGrory.


I'm sorry to keep correcting you but this daughter Lurena only exists in the transcription on Ancestry for the 1891 census  but that's incorrect, the image says Teresa.

1911 census in Armagh states Michael McGrory snr and his wife have been married 27 years and in that time have had 3 children all of who were still alive.

As Neale1961 says a  close up scan of that yours truly [Q_ ?] Fox would be needed.

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Re: photo of mgrory family 1866
« Reply #28 on: Friday 20 December 24 14:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Please see the text that refers to "yours truly... Fox" on the back of the photo.
For lurena McGrory who was 2 in that census I cannot find any other records.
There were significant events for the mcgrory family between 1915 and 1917:
Wedding of Teresa McGrory with Patrick Lamph in Sep 1915 in Armagh.
Wedding of Michael A. McGrory and Gladys Rose Young in Oct1916 in Dover, England.
We can now be sure this photo is not in 1866 and is not of a 10 year old Teresa McGrory.
Therefore the photo could be a family photo at one of these weddings, or alternatively a work group photo of the business in Liverpool which Michael A. McGrory has the business card.
The high resolution photo's couldn't be attached here due to file size so the better photos are here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s-C-WlI5-D0vvTMcdnc5D6f7NIfzE_Zb/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/17Fbtx6wpo23He9AmMnBATnsLhGG8CBsT/view?usp=drive_link
It does seem to be medal ribbons above the pocket, but hard to see in this close. I can submit this in the armed forces subforum for further analysis.
So far I'm learning so much from this (very happy to take corrections).



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Re: photo of mgrory family 1866
« Reply #29 on: Friday 20 December 24 15:17 GMT (UK) »
Queenie? Fox
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: photo of mgrory family 1866
« Reply #30 on: Friday 20 December 24 15:43 GMT (UK) »
I also see Queenie  when adjusted with Photoshop.  It's the old fashioned Q that losks like an elaborate 2.
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Re: photo of mgrory family 1866
« Reply #31 on: Friday 20 December 24 16:05 GMT (UK) »
Queenie could be a name in itself.
Or, if a nickname, could refer to a Victoria, Alexandria, or Mary, depending on when she got the moniker.
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Re: photo of mgrory family 1866
« Reply #32 on: Friday 20 December 24 16:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Please see the text that refers to "yours truly... Fox" on the back of the photo.
For lurena McGrory who was 2 in that census I cannot find any other records.


Please read reply no 27 in this thread. There was NO child of this name, so there ARE NO records.
Ancestry has mistranscribed the entry (they aren't too reliable at the best of times and this writing is particularly challenging)
On the image (which is the original record) children listed are Mary M(argaret), aged 4 and Teresa (aged 2).


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Re: photo of mgrory family 1866
« Reply #33 on: Friday 20 December 24 16:47 GMT (UK) »

There were significant events for the mcgrory family between 1915 and 1917:
Wedding of Teresa McGrory with Patrick Lamph in Sep 1915 in Armagh.


The wedding on 30 June 1915 at Ballymacnab RC Church in Keady R.D.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1915/09816/5564314.pdf


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Re: photo of mgrory family 1866
« Reply #34 on: Friday 20 December 24 17:17 GMT (UK) »
There is a marriage of a John McGrory to an Annie Fox in England in 1914. Any link to this family?
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Re: photo of mgrory family 1866
« Reply #35 on: Friday 20 December 24 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Having 3 threads on the same subject is getting very messy!

I see that JenB also sees the name as Queenie:

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=888118.msg7614193#msg7614193



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