Handwriting help - Birth place

[JLo]

An interesting spot but I think that one is a red herring. Loewenthal is a relatively common name in Germany and Morris's wife Elizabeth was born in Manchester but had moved away by 1841. I wonder if they knew each other...

[PatLac]

I suppose you have already checked Ancestry's All England, Alien Arrivals, 1826-1869? I don't have a subscription, but i can see a M. Loewenthal arriving in London.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/1587/?name=_löwenthal&arrival=1859&arrival_x=2-0-0&name_x=i

And this family tree?

[PatLac]

Have you checked his business partner?

"Henry Pallash and Morris Loewenthal, Aldermanbury. manufacturers of leather goods"

Published: Wednesday 17 January 1866
Newspaper: Globe
County: London, England

[JLo]

I suppose you have already checked Ancestry's All England, Alien Arrivals, 1826-1869? I don't have a subscription, but i can see a M. Loewenthal arriving in London.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/1587/?name=_löwenthal&arrival=1859&arrival_x=2-0-0&name_x=i

And this family tree?

Yes that is the possible arrival I have in 1859 from Prussia. No way of proving that it is him though and the profession is completely unreadable (worse than the 1861 census!)

The family tree is his wife Elizabeth's (her mother's maiden name was Cohen) and does not have anything significant on him.

[JLo]

Have you checked his business partner?

"Henry Pallash and Morris Loewenthal, Aldermanbury. manufacturers of leather goods"

Published: Wednesday 17 January 1866
Newspaper: Globe
County: London, England

I have looked at him in the past, but without knowing his age it is tricky to know for sure whether you have the right one. The most likely one I found comes from Prussia/Poland

[PatLac]

Thanks for replying. Could you post the picture of his occupation? Maybe someone here could decipher it?

[JLo]

He's right at  the bottom of the page. His native country says Preuben (Prussia) but I have no clue what the occupation says or even if it's the right M. Loewenthal!

[PatLac]

Thanks! It looks like "Taylor" or "Saylor" (see above, different handwriting). Old spelling or the person who wrote it was German.

[manukarik]

Following on from PatLac's post there is a Certificate of Arrival on 3 November 1857 for a Moritz Loewenthal arriving in Dover from Germany via Calais. Doesn't specify where in Germany he came from, just that he had a German Passport. Moritz is, of course, German for Maurice or Morris.

Have you looked for any Naturalisation Papers?

Link for those who have access to Ancestry:

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01tql/