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Re: Researching soldier from medals?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 23 April 25 19:10 BST (UK) »
You can find him in 1921 in Dublin as a boy telegraphist with the Army Royal Corps of Signals.
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 23 April 25 19:12 BST (UK) »
I'm also wondering who the Colonel Stanley Joseph Hoyland who administered his estate in 1962 was.

You can find him in 1921 in Dublin as a boy telegraphist with the Army Royal Corps of Signals.
Interesting.
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Re: Researching soldier from medals?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 23 April 25 19:22 BST (UK) »
If the Victor born 1904 is the correct man, I have a feeling the father Joseph has left Emily and may have possibly married again (bigamously??) in 1906

Marriages Dec 1906   

HOYLAND    Joseph        Walsall    6b   1344    
LEADBETTER    Amy        Walsall    6b   1344

1911 census

Amy   Hoyland   Wife   Married   Female   31   1880   -   Walsall Staf
Marjorie   Hoyland   Daughter   -   Female   2   1909   -   Portsmouth

1921 census has Joseph/Amy & Elizabeth.

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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 23 April 25 19:22 BST (UK) »
This could be Col. Stanley Joseph Hoyland-
https://www.rlcarchive.org/jObit?ID=273
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Re: Researching soldier from medals?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 23 April 25 19:50 BST (UK) »
Info re Joseph Hoyland.

HOYLAND, JOSEPH       mmn PERRY 
GRO Reference: 1876  J Quarter in HENDON  Volume 03A  Page 117

Military records show born Harrow. 2 service no.s 257998 & 189500.



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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 23 April 25 20:03 BST (UK) »
Victor's army number must have changed at some point.

CSM (131459) to Lieutenant (TMO) in 1940:

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/34858/supplement/3178/data.pdf

Captain Victor Hoyland 131459 applies for medals in 1948 (including Africa and Italy stars):

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/62862/records/1399449
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Re: Researching soldier from medals?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 23 April 25 21:13 BST (UK) »
Victor's army number must have changed at some point.
131459 is his officer personal number allocated when he was commissioned.


CSM (131459) to Lieutenant (TMO) in 1940:

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/34858/supplement/3178/data.pdf
In case it's not clear from the Gazette entry which Shaun has found, he was commissioned as a Technical Maintenance Officer, that is to say the officer* in a signal regiment responsible for the maintenance and repair of all the electronic equipment and vehicles within the unit. After the formation of the REME in 1943, he would have no longer been responsible for the vehicle maintenance. A TMO was usually a commissioned former technician, so it is odd that in 1921 Victor was described as a telegraphist, which is/was an operator trade. Clearly though, at the time he was commissioned he was employed at regimental duty (ie out of his former trade) as a warrant officer class 2 company sergeant major (CSM).

*At some later date this title was changed to Technical Officer Telecomunications (TOT)

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Re: Researching soldier from medals?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 23 April 25 21:39 BST (UK) »
Marriage in Karachi, 9 Jan 1934, Sergeant Victor Hoyland RCoS (father Herbert) to Agnes Anderson Young Whitelaw (father George Muir Whitelaw). Both aged 30
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 23 April 25 21:45 BST (UK) »
Marriage in Karachi, 9 Jan 1934, Sergeant Victor Hoyland RCoS (father Herbert) to Agnes Anderson Young Whitelaw (father George Muir Whitelaw). Both aged 30
Just got the marriage from Scotland's People- Victor's address is Rawalpindi and Agnes' is Karachi.
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