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When visiting RootsChat, I try to keep some thoughts to myself.  But, even though I’ve not personally chatted with most of the “frequent fliers” (those who are constantly helping)  ;D , I still feel like we are one big family.  Hence my typing fingers have taken over my politeness in refraining from making a comment.

I was curious about a couple of things and briefly looked at some of the poster’s previous threads.  A number of them seem to not have acknowledgement for help received.  It may simply be a case of the poster privately thanking those who helped (I’ve done that a couple of times).  If not, I hope there are reasons for seemingly ignoring the findings, such as being busy with family, unable to visit RootsChat on a regular basis, having other unexpected commitments, etc.

My apologies for speaking my mind.  If I’ve offended anyone, I am truly sorry.  Lisa

Added:  I’m done commenting here.  On to more important things.   :)

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There's a tree for him on Family Search, consisting of about 24 records. It includes the Sweden-related records, as well.

For example, here's his 1870 birth record. You need to register and log in to view the record.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QRQH-8D3Z

Family Search is also good for US Passenger manifest records from around the turn of the century.


Looking for Passenger Lists/Arrival/Emigration Records for Frederick Oskar Anderson

Brian - Why didn't you indicate his actual name was Oskar Fredrik Johansson?  ::)  ::)   See Reply #7


Brian, I know that I’ve made a few mistakes on RootsChat (not including previous related posts, asking twice for something, etc.) so I do understand about making mistakes, but FamilySearch has been suggested to you in at least one recent thread as a good resource.  I hope you realize that by me also encouraging the use of FamilySearch first, I’m only trying to save time and effort made by others who are trying to help.   :)

Regarding Johansson/Anderson: perhaps a search had already been conducted for Johansson and you were hoping he sailed under the Anderson name?  Or, perhaps you accidentally mixed up the names?  Either way, checking a site (by you) prior to posting your question might have caught the possible name mix up or suggested the need for a wee bit of additional information for those trying to help.

I’m sure you value and are thankful for the help provided by others.  I also am very grateful for the time and effort given by others in my numerous posts.  ;D

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United States of America / Re: Dentistry - professional requirements in 1897
« on: Thursday 16 May 24 23:16 BST (UK)  »
I enjoy learning about history and since I worked in Emeryville for a couple of years, I researched the racetracks a bit more.  Imagine my surprise when I discovered the actual location: I worked for a consulting firm located literally just steps away from the site. 

https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=238949
[Again, the above site is new to me, open at your discretion)

The “club” had its grand reopening in October 1896 so Mr. Logan could have indeed visited this racetrack.

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United States of America / Re: Dentistry - professional requirements in 1897
« on: Thursday 16 May 24 19:13 BST (UK)  »
You are welcome for the digging.  I wanted to find Louis as his evasion was irritating me.  ;D

According to one website, in 1896, a “trotting facility” in Emeryville (which borders Berkeley) was purchased and “immediately” renovated.  Providing that the new facility was in operation in 1897, perhaps Mr. Logan was caught up in the excitement and just couldn’t help himself.  It’s not an excuse, but just a suggestion. 
Oakland Race Track
https://www.thoroughbredracing.com/articles/2108/looking-back-lost-tracks-san-francisco-bay-area/
[I’ve not used the site before; use at your discretion]

I lived and worked in the San Francisco Bay Area for many years.  Should you have any questions about the area, perhaps I might have answers.

Added: I didn’t think of the money lost in today’s value - wow!

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United States of America / Re: Dentistry - professional requirements in 1897
« on: Thursday 16 May 24 07:50 BST (UK)  »
The following isn’t helpful for your quest, but I don’t like to give up when I think answers are out there (it bothered me that Louis’ census returns couldn’t be found).  ;)

Possibly Louis’ father was Josiah/Joseph Sandford.  The following may be about one family…

1860: Josiah H? Sandford, age 38, born Maine.
          Louisa, female, age 6, born California.  1860 Santa Rosa, CA census
          Was an error made and Louisa was actually Louis, a male?
1870:  Louis Sandford, age 16, born California, Farmhand (living with Gale family)
          Josiah Sandford, age 48, born M?, Engineer.  (Living with Edwards family.)
           Both census returns: 1860 Petaluma Census.
1872:  Josiah Sandford died. Buried in Petaluma.
1882:  Eliza Hannath’s will mentioned Santa Rosa a couple of times.
One Ancestry tree stated Josiah married Elizabeth Guss, 1/1/1853, California.  Gass is mentioned in Hannath’s will, possibly Guss and Gass were the same family?

Now that Louis may have been found, it’s time to give this up.  :)

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United States of America / Re: Dentistry - professional requirements in 1897
« on: Wednesday 15 May 24 08:06 BST (UK)  »
Summing up:

1909: Louis N Sandford, died 7 October 1909, San Francisco, CA.  Age 55 (born c1854) [Death Index]
          Dr. L. N. Sandford, born San Francisco, Married, age 55, died 7 Oct 1909 [FuneralHome]
1900: Louis N Sandford, born Dec 1853, California, Single, Dentist, father born Maine; mother Canada English [Census]
1885: Dr. L. N. Sandford, age 31 (born c1854), Dentist [Occ Licenses]
1882: Louis Napolean Sandford, named in will - by grandmother Eliza Hannath(?), 23 July 1882
1880: Louis N. Sanford, Dentist John P. Trumpour, r. 402 1/2 Hayes [City Directory]
1877: Louis Napolean Sanford, age 23 (born c1854), born California, Druggist, residence:Hollister [Voter Reg]
1875: Louis Napoleon Sandford, bookkeeper, res 1212 Turk (St), age 21 (born c1854) [Voter Reg]
         Lewis Sanford, dwl 1212 Turk [City Directory]

I’ve not yet found Louis in 1880, 1870 or 1860 census returns which is a bit odd.  I cannot find the connection to Benjamin.  I’m leaning toward there not being any connection to your Sanfords.

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United States of America / Re: Dentistry - professional requirements in 1897
« on: Wednesday 15 May 24 06:59 BST (UK)  »
…Unless the newspaper account is wrong about James's dental partnership, I think you are right that his colleague was Louis Napoleon San(d)ford.  How many dentists could there have been in California at that time with that surname and initials?  I don't see how that man can be connected to the Wisconsin Sanfords, though, at least not closely connected.  So, it may just be a coincidence that James's mother and his partner were both named Sanford.

At this time, it looks like Benjamin was not his father.  I am backtracking to find out why I believed it possible.  Also, possibly, his name may have actually been Sandford.

I’ve not found an obituary for Louis.  Perhaps if there was one, it might help.

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United States of America / Re: Dentistry - professional requirements in 1897
« on: Monday 13 May 24 17:22 BST (UK)  »
I can have a look around if you like?  I believe Dr. Sanford’s parents were born in Canada, or at least his father, Benjamin, was - his mother was supposedly either born in England or Canada.  If you would prefer to investigate (and confirm that his father was Benjamin), I understand wanting to uncover details on your own.   :)

Added: Maine was also recorded as Dr. Sanford’s father’s birthplace.

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United States of America / Re: Dentistry - professional requirements in 1897
« on: Monday 13 May 24 09:40 BST (UK)  »
Perhaps Dr. San(d)ford had two offices, but I haven’t found any reference (using Anc*try) to a practice in Alameda County, just references to San Francisco.

Perhaps dentists at the time didn’t use a title, but in the 1899 divorce (very brief) article, he is simply James A. Logan, not Dr. Logan.

I wonder if it was just a coincidence that the shared Berkeley dental practice was just a few blocks from the university - or perhaps one of the men did briefly attend the university?
https://www.collectableivy.com/collectible-ivy-blog/an-illustrated-history-of-the-university-of-california-berkeley-1895/
Includes a photo of several dental students, taken in 1895.
Note: I don’t know if the site is a safe site; use with caution.  ;)

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