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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Edith Mary Baker Bicester
« on: Wednesday 17 April 24 17:53 BST (UK)  »
The Bicester Herald has reports of childrens activities at Bicester Parish Church, i.e. Sunday School, Bible Class.
Edith Baker is in a few of these.
12 January 1912
Prizes for attendance and good conduct at the Sunday School gained by various boys, girls, infants
including Girls VII - Edith Baker, Mabel Smith, Nellie Pinchin

A report, 1 August 1913, on the funeral of Mrs. Mary Ann Baker, widow of Henry Baker. Age 89.
The mourners included Mrs. Edward Baker (daughter in law) and Mrs. J. Smith (granddaughter)
Flowers sent by children (and possibly others), including "Edie". Who may or may not be Edith Baker? :-\

Yes I had these Sunday school attendance and thought it could be her. 
I also have the newspaper clipping of the funeral of Mary Ann Baker, but admit I had not seen 'Edie'  but this is possibly her. 

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Edith Mary Baker Bicester
« on: Wednesday 17 April 24 17:50 BST (UK)  »
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Which shipping entry were you looking at?
It's from the Library of Canada website which has her down as Edith May which is probably an error
as the shipping list says Mary.
She departed from L'pool May 13 1911 on the Teutonic.

Yes I had the departure on the Teutonic too, that is what made me think she had gone to Canada.  Just seems a bit far for a 15 year old to go!!

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Edith Mary Baker Bicester
« on: Wednesday 17 April 24 11:39 BST (UK)  »
There is an Edith Mary Baker DOB 1896 who went to Canada just after the 1911 census, age is 15! Says she is a student.  Could be her

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Edith Mary Baker Bicester
« on: Wednesday 17 April 24 11:36 BST (UK)  »
Her grandparents were still living at Hadlands Yard in 1921 but on their own.
Her mother also was alive in 1921 living in Bicester with 3 children still at home, but no sign of Edith.  Her mother Florence died in 1925. 
Grandfather died in 1927 and her grandmother in 1948 but no sign of Edith in any census's etc with her siblings.  Her mother had another illegitimate child Hilda in 1899 but she kept her with her and I am assuming that her father was James Smith as Florence was living with him but she only took his name later on. 
No they were not Catholic.
I will look at migration again
Thank you

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Family History Beginners Board / Edith Mary Baker Bicester
« on: Wednesday 17 April 24 09:36 BST (UK)  »
I am trying to find out what happened to Edith Mary Baker after 1911.
Born 17 October 1897 in Bicester. 
Mother Florence Baker - Domestic Servant.
No father listed.
Baptised Bicester 12 Oct 1900
1901 Living with Grand parents Edward and Louisa Baker Hadlands Yard. - Adopted
1911 Living 3 Hadlands Yard, Bicester with Grandparents.  - Listed as Grandchild.
Nothing after this. 
Not on 1921 census or 1939 register.  Cannot find a marriage or death.  Tried 1939 census with birth date and leaving surname out but nothing.
Looked at Migration and there are some of same name going to Canada and America but cannot believe they are her, no DOBs link in either.

I feel as if I have exhausted all options.    HELP please  :)


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Family History Beginners Board / Re: SHAW PLATE WORKER
« on: Wednesday 10 April 24 15:18 BST (UK)  »
Ah thanks Rosie that makes more sense.   :)

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Family History Beginners Board / Shaw Plate Worker
« on: Wednesday 10 April 24 14:49 BST (UK)  »
I have an ancestor Elizabeth Kempster and in the 1881 census she is living in Leighton Buzzard and I am sure that her occupation states 'Shaw Plate Worker'  I have googles this occupation but cannot find anything.  Has anyone got any idea what this might be please.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: DNA match
« on: Wednesday 27 December 23 12:53 GMT (UK)  »
No personal interest, but....

Reply #3: Suzy, you say: "but this Urch was in North Somerset and they are in Frome,"

I would suggest a link is highly likely given that Frome is also Somerset.

Good hunting.


That is what I am thinking, so am def looking into it.  But understand what others are saying about a slim chance.

Thanks

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: DNA match
« on: Wednesday 27 December 23 08:45 GMT (UK)  »


If you have a DNA match in the Urch tree it might not mean that you and your son in law are “related”. Could it be that you are related to someone else in the tree who married into the Urch family?

There are often errors in trees attached to DNA results, so keep that in mind. Many of them only show direct lines and to find where you match you often have to search very wide …. For example trace all siblings of all 4 and 5x great grandparents, and then trace their descendants on all lines ….

I would look at mutual matches of you and the Urch match to see if that clarifies.

Lastly 8cm is a small amount of DNA to share. I think it is Ancestry who have a cut off, and don’t even bother to show matches that low. Having said that, some people are able to trace matches which share very low amounts.

It is a good idea to test your son in law too. DNA is passed down randomly and it could be that he did not inherit DNA from the same ancestors that you did.

There is loads online but this American one explains the possible time lines quite simply https://www.familyhistoryfanatics.com/how-far-back-ethicity

Regarding paying someone to research for you, I would think they would just do the same sort of online research tracing all lines, in the same way that you would. Others may have some suggestions on this.

Good luck, and pop back when you get your son in law’s results.

Added: which company did you take the DNA test with?

Thank you Ruskie sounds like you absolutely understood my post.  I had thought about the fact that my son in law may have an ancestor that we have  common ancestors marrying each other and there actually is a case of this my 1 cousin 3 x removed married an Urch but this Urch was in North Somerset and they are in Frome, however I am looking to see if there is a connection in the Urch Tree.

I did the DNA on Ancestry.

But thank you again I will continue my search.

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