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Ireland / Re: leases renewable forever
« on: Monday 31 May 21 23:44 BST (UK)  »
I don't have access to the original lease, this is a listing in the Ordnance Survey Names Book that says "lease renewable forever," ie. this is not a lease of lives. In this specific case the person who had the lease renewable forever was the one listed as as the immediate lessor for the entire townland in Griffith's Valuation, so I had assumed he owned the land, but it appears he was leasing it and then subleasing it out.

I just browsed through the Ordnance Survey Names Book and it looks like this type of "forever" lease was not uncommon (mind, these are all very large landowners renting entire townlands to other English gentry who would then sublease it to Irish farmers, the farmers themselves did not have this type of lease).

Here are some examples on this page and the ones after it.

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Ireland / leases renewable forever
« on: Monday 31 May 21 15:51 BST (UK)  »
I'm looking at the ordnance names survey and for the townland I am researching, says "Proprietor = X, all held on a lease renewable forever by Y."

So if I'm understanding this correctly, X actually owns the property and Y is just leasing it (and then subleasing it to hundreds of tenants), is that correct? What rights would one have on "a lease renewable forever"?

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Ireland / Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
« on: Tuesday 18 May 21 11:30 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Purpeller on Tuesday 18 May 21 09:23 BST (UK)
None. They're not great at communicating. I'd seriously doubt they'd have anything before Autumn though.

Thanks. I'll still take no communication and free records over the UK system.  ;D

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Ireland / Re: Is it Still "Early 2019"?
« on: Sunday 16 May 21 23:32 BST (UK)  »
Any idea when the next update is? I'm still hoping for some of those early death records but I may have to bite the bullet and start ordering them!

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Ireland / Re: Researching family roots by property deeds? Can it be done?
« on: Sunday 16 May 21 23:20 BST (UK)  »
FamilySearch has scanned some of the Land Valuation Office revision lists and they are available for viewing in FHCs.

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Staffordshire / Re: Theatre Royal West Bromwich - RAINBOW
« on: Saturday 08 May 21 17:40 BST (UK)  »
I'm researching one of my relatives from West Bromwich, John Hubert Lyons born 1867. On his 1894 marriage to Martha Jane Smith his occupation is listed as "theatrical professional." I wonder if he might be the John Lyons in Emma Rainbow's Company who performed in Lucky Star. If anyone has any suggestions on how I can research this further, I'm all ears! I haven't been able to find him after the 1890 census (he's living with his parents and listed as a "safe packer" ???)

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Armagh / Re: Rev. John Taylor of Pittsburgh b. ~1753 Armagh
« on: Wednesday 21 April 21 21:45 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Erato on Tuesday 20 April 21 15:33 BST (UK)
It's a common name but, since he was interested in natural science, I wonder if he is the John Taylor who corresponded with Benjamin Franklin?

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01qjg/

Thank you, I very much wish this was him, but he was not yet married at that time.

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Armagh / Re: Rev. John Taylor of Pittsburgh b. ~1753 Armagh
« on: Tuesday 20 April 21 13:37 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, Elwyn!

I guess I am assuming that his degree was Theology, but I do not know that for certain. I found this in  a sermon from 1869 about the history of the church that he had previously been part of:

Mr. Taylor, the first Rector, was a man of strong mind, more fond of Natural Science, perhaps, than of Theology. I am told by one who knew him well that so great was his love of Astronomy, that he sometimes spent the entire night in the open air, watching the movements of the Heavenly bodies.

I will contact The Presbyterian Historical Society and Armagh Observatory. Thanks so much for these suggestions, they are very helpful.


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Armagh / Rev. John Taylor of Pittsburgh b. ~1753 Armagh
« on: Monday 19 April 21 22:23 BST (UK)  »
I'm trying to find more information about John Taylor, who was first a Presbyterian minister and then Episcopalian reverend in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

I have found many short biographies of him that say he was born in 1753 or 1754 in Armagh, and graduated from Trinity College, Dublin. He was known for making almanacs with weather predictions for the upcoming year as well as mapmaking and navigation.

However, the first record that I can find of him is Pennsylvania in around 1790. Her married Susannah Houston (nee Woodruff) and died in 1838.

I am trying to find anything to confirm his pre-emigration-to-America life (Armagh, Trinity College), but have't turned up anything.

I checked "Alumni Dublinenses : a register of the students, graduates, professors and provosts of Trinity College in the University of Dublin (1593-1860)" and don't see anyone that looks like it would be him.

If anyone has any suggestions, I am all ears!


Some links:

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