1901 Census for Todd

[Miss Poohs]

Hello there - this may be a stab in the dark, but I don't know where else to start.

I'd dearly love to know where abouts in Ireland my Grandfather and his family were from, I'm sorry to say all I know is at the moment they were from Ireland  .

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Ok this is what I know.

My grandfather was Herbert Fernie Todd, DOB 16th Nov 1900, he was an engineer to trade, but sadly suffered with mental illness and was hospitalised long term until his death here in Glasgow, 5th  December 1974.

His father was

John Henry Todd - born approx 1864, he was an engine fitter to trade. He died 8th July 1939 in Glasgow aged 75.

His parent were John Todd also an engine fitter, and Margaret Todd (ms McMillan)

Herberts mother was

Susan Jane (ms McMeekin) Todd - born approx 1862, she died in Glasgow 28th Sept 1929 as the result of a tram accident, aged 67.

Her parents were William McMeekin - a gardener and Mary McMeekin (ms Morrow)



As far as bothers and sisters go I believe he had both, but I have only managed to find 2 brothers.

Frederick Henry Todd, a shipwright, who was married in Glasgow 17th April 1925.

Also Thomas Joseph Todd DOB 30th Dec 1898, he was an Aero Engineer and died at the age of 76, 6th August 1975, again here in Glasgow.

I have no idea when they came to live in Scotland or if they came directly here from Ireland.

As I say any information would be very much appreciated - I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Regards

Janice

[scotmum]

In 1890, there were 332 Todd households recorded in Ireland, with the bulk of these being in Counties Antrim, Down and Armagh.

You have your grandfather's birth date. Was this in Ireland or Scotland? Do you have any of the family in the 1901 Census (as possible mention of a county in Ireland)?

[scotmum]

In Griffiths, two of the first names in your Todd line, John and Frederick, appear together in Drumcree, County Armagh. This may just be a coincidence. John as a first name appears in various counties but this is the only Frederick recorded in Griffiths.

[Miss Poohs]

I can't find birth records for any of my grandfathers family, here in Scotland, which makes me assume they would all have been born in Ireland.

I have no idea when they would have made the move to here.

By 1901 there would have been

Thomas Joseph Todd DOB 30/12/1898
Herbert Fernie Todd DOB 5/12/1900
and
Frederick Henry Todd approx 1897

and ofcourse John and Susan Todd their parents.

[Miss Poohs]

Sorry thick question coming up - is Griffiths like a census type document?

Would the parents names be along side the children too?

[scotmum]

Unfortunately Griffiths only records the head of house. This timeline will possibly help you better understand what Griffiths was http://www.ancestryireland.co.uk//database.php?filename=timeline_help.

If you think Thomas and Herbie were born in Ireland, knowing the dates you should be able to track down a Birth Certificate. Out of interest, how certain are you of these dates?

[scotmum]

Could they have been Irish from further back and come to Scotland via England (as some of my lines did)?

A Herbert Ferney Todd was recorded in the December 1900 Quarter returns for Barrow in Furness.

[Miss Poohs]

Herberts DOB I got from his death cert, which due to the circumstance surrounding his very sad life I can't guarantee. There are already 2 glaring mistakes on his death cert - God love 'im.

On his marriage to my gran which was 27th Feb 1925, he states his age as 23, which doesn't add up either.

The DOB for Thomas Joseph Todd was also from his death cert, so to answer your question about the certainty of the bith dates - I suppose not very!! Sorry.

[scotmum]

A John Frederick Henry Todd was also born in Barrow in Furness in 1895 (again recorded in December quarter).

I know some of my lines moved from Ireland to Cumberland (the county Barrow is in)  to Lanarkshire for work, perhaps yours did similar.