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Offline Truromian

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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #279 on: Thursday 29 October 09 11:13 GMT (UK) »
Also has anyone got any pictures of Joseph Ivey before 1910?especially the wedding picture between him and Ellen -
or any of the Carnartons
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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #280 on: Thursday 29 October 09 16:39 GMT (UK) »
Truromian,

In my database I have Ellen Palmer (1851), who was a sister of our John Palmer, moving to Lancashire and marrying William Barnes in 1874. Their younger sister Susan also married in Lancashire three years later. I don't have any other Ellen Palmers of the right age, so it looks like she wasn't of our line.

The only Joseph Ivey I have was born in 1861 the son of William Ivey & Mary Jane Carnarton. I have hism as marrying Louisa Posnett in 1894 in Southwark, London. They had 9 children gradually moving eastwards through Mile End to West Ham, by 1908.
Grose - Cornwall
Rice - Devon
Harris - Herefordshire
Bristow - London
Sadler - Yorkshire
Nye - London
Allen - Cornwall
Palmer - Cornwall
Chynoweth - Cornwall
Cowling - Cornwall

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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #281 on: Thursday 29 October 09 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Do you know for sure your Joseph married Ellen Palmer, or was even married previously?

Only I've found Joseph in 1881 living with his mother, in 1891 single (born on the high seas??) a lodger in Whitechapel, and in 1901 married to Louisa. He was a brush maker in all 3.
Grose - Cornwall
Rice - Devon
Harris - Herefordshire
Bristow - London
Sadler - Yorkshire
Nye - London
Allen - Cornwall
Palmer - Cornwall
Chynoweth - Cornwall
Cowling - Cornwall

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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #282 on: Friday 30 October 09 09:21 GMT (UK) »
Britgirl this is what iam trying to find out
the Joseph Ivey you talk of is my GG grandfather
but i have missing from Cornwall since 1881 then showing up in London 1901
so the lost years are what iam trying to trace - and in that is this wedding to Ellen Palmer, as i say unless in my searches i was mistaken
this is what iam trying to find out
What happened to Joseph Ivey between 1881 in Cornwall and 1901 when he turned up in London
Ivey, Trevallion, Jonas, Posnett - All from Cornwall


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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #283 on: Friday 30 October 09 18:54 GMT (UK) »
Well, although his age is out by 5 years I believe your Joseph was loging at the Luther E Clarke Victoria Home, Whitechapel, London in 1891.

Joseph Ivey, lodger, single, 35, brushmaker, employed, birthplace; On the High Seas.

In 1881 his birthdate is placed at 1859, so still out a bit, and there aren't any other Joseph Ivey's who were brushmakers, except this one!
Grose - Cornwall
Rice - Devon
Harris - Herefordshire
Bristow - London
Sadler - Yorkshire
Nye - London
Allen - Cornwall
Palmer - Cornwall
Chynoweth - Cornwall
Cowling - Cornwall

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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #284 on: Saturday 31 October 09 09:07 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou so much for that
has solved a big gap in Joseph's History, Need to look into the high seas birth - as all i have is born in Cornwall.
although there is a lot of Maritime History on the Ivey Side
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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #285 on: Sunday 01 November 09 20:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi all :)

Truromian ... I have checked the 1891 and cannot see a Joseph and Ellen Ivey or even a married Ellen Ivey by herself.

I have found his marriage to Louisa Posnett on LMA
22 may 1893
Joseph states he is 29, BATCHELOR, brushmaker, father= William Ivey, deceased.
Louisa is 20, spinster, father= James Posnett, brushmaker
both are residing St George The Martyr at time of marriage.

He signs with his mark, Louisa signs her name

witnesses;
James Posnett (he signs)
Henrietta Poole (her mark)
I have details of them in 1911 if you would like them.


Deb :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #286 on: Sunday 01 November 09 20:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi Britgirl

I have the Annie Palmer who married in Tavistock and I don't think she is ours.
Marriage;
Tavistock, Devon
Annie Palmer to either
Richard Harry W Marks or Sidney George Bolt
Dec q 1909


In 1911 she is with Sidney Bolt and dau Lily, living in St Germans, Cornwall
Annie = age 24 b Tavistock  :-\

will keep looking

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: Cornish Mystery
« Reply #287 on: Monday 02 November 09 11:15 GMT (UK) »
Deb
That is fantastic thankyou for that - and it opens up
the Posnett side a little bit more for me
the 1911 stuff you have would be fantastic as well if you have it to hand
especially the Posnett side
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