SEARLE family in Bishop's Stortford area in 18thC

[findem]

Hi Jericho,

Sorry about that gaff, boy did I stuff up 

The Henry Searle baptised 15 Feb 1797 at Felsted wasn't of course the son of Thomas Searle and Mary Gunn (they were the next generation in my line), Henry was the son of Thomas Searle and Sarah Willers (Willis) who married in 1785.

Henry was the sixth in a family of ten children, the baptism entry for Henry gave his parents as Thomas and Mary Searle, however the the five children before him and the four after were all stated to be the children of Thomas and Sarah Searle.

After a lot of research and soul searching, several other Searles researchers and myself consider the the recorder of Henry's baptism entry made an error and should have recorded the mother's name as Sarah.  We could find no Thomas and Mary Searle in the Felsted neck of the woods, the nearest I could find was a Thomas and Mary Searl who baptised a son Thomas in 1760 at Stebbing.  From memory I believe one of the other researchers found a like error in another family name in the same handwriting.

Regards.

[LizzieL]

My husband,s 3 x great grandfather was John Searle(s) who married and died in Takeley near Bishop's Stortford. He was born abt 1809, married on 12 Oct 1835 to Mercy Griggs and was buried on 11 Sep 1856. The birth year is calculated from age at death. Unfortunately I can't find him on 1851 census so I don't know place of birth.

[[Ray]]

Hi LizzieL

1841 HO107 340 19 31, Essex , Takeley District 10

Page 2
Waltham Hall - the only name I recognise - north-east of Stansted Airport
Is the rest of this whole census part under the airport?
 
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John Searle 30 Essex
Mary Searle 20 Essex
Emma Searle 4 Essex
Harriet Searle 2 Essex
George Searle 1 Essex
Sarah Searle 6/12 Essex

also
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Giles Searle 65 Essex
Jane Searle 65 Essex
Henry Searle 20 Essex

also
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Thomas Searle 60 Essex
Jane Searle 35 Essex
William Searle 16 Essex
Susanna Searle 20 Essex

also
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Jonathan Searle 35 Essex
Hannah Searle 30 Essex
Rhoda Searle 12 Essex
Isabella Searle 10 Essex
Jonathan Searle 8 Essex

also
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James Searle 30 Essex
Mary Searle 30 Essex
Louisa Searle 8 Essex
Ann Searle 5 Essex
Sophia Searle 3 Essex
Eliza Searle 6/12 Essex



Ray

[LizzieL]

Thanks Ray, the first family belong to my husband. Jonathan is the son of Giles and Jane, but I had missed Thomas, who by his age is a candidate for our John's father.
But is there a connection with Keith's John Searle?

[[Ray]]

Hi

Give me a chance, I did the easy bit first.       

At the mo, I can't even find takeley on the 1851 census 

 
Ray

[LizzieL]

Unfortunately, according to FindMyPast, that area is one of the known permanent gaps on the 1851 census. I have baptism transcript for Takeley, but our John isn't on it. There is an older John baptised on the same day as Jonathan (son of Giles) - 10 Feb 1805. The older John's parents are John and Sarah. I think I have found this Sarah described as a "poor widow" in Felsted in 1841 census. There is also a John b 1805 in Felsted but different household, but this may be coincidence and they are not the ones from Takeley.

[findem]

Hi LizzieL,

Without wishing to hijack Keith's Hertfordshire Searles post, for what is worth I have on my Spares Database a John Searle who might be a possible.

John Searle of John & Sarah baptised 12 Nov 1802 at Felsted, Essex which is only about 7 miles from Takeley

Other children of a John & Sarah Searle baptised at Felsted:
Sarah Searles born 7 Mar 1773 baptised 2 Apr 1773.
John Searle bap 23 Jul 1773.

John Searle married Sarah Burls 20 Oct 1804 at Felsted by Licence, Sarah signed Burles.
Sarah Searle bap 2 Feb 1806 of John Searle & Sarah Burls
Mary Searle born 27 Apr 1814 bap 2 Oct 1814 of John Searle & Sarah Burls.
Can't be 100% sure but I believe the name Burls came from the entries for those two children and not my conclusion.

The John Searles bap 1802, Sarah bap 1806 and the 1804 marriage were sourced from Felsted transcripts, the others from the PRS, if these are of any interest to you it would of course be wise to have them double checked.  Those Searles were found in passing and recorded "just in case" so there is a possibility there could be others waiting to be found.

I haven't found a link to my Searles line but It wouldn't surprise me at all if they were linked.

Regards

 

[LizzieL]

Thanks for all that information. So it looks like the Felstead John and Sarah (mother) are different and just a coincidence in names. So I am leaning more towards to my John being the one baptised in Takeley on same day as Jonathan. The only evidence I have for his age is 1841 census (rounded) and reported age at death (from transcription of death register - unknown informant but wife was still alive at this time).

[gensfj]

Hi

My Searle line are from Bishops Stortford.

George Searle born 1816 in BS  to Wm Searle and Sarah Savil.

Wm and Sarah were married in Takeley in 1798.
A son Charles was born in Takeley in 1798,  the rest of the children in BS.

Williams parents were Thomas Searle and Hannah Gilby married in Stansted Mountfitchet and were  in BS from 1779 onwards.

Any connections.
Can send more info on the family lines offline if you are interested. 


We also have 2 Searle relatives in the Searle yDNA project, but no matches yet.
Would love to get some more Essex/Herts Searles in the project to see who is connected or not.

cheers
Frances