CRAVEN of Newport/Goole/Hull/Wakefield (Mariner) - Lookups Please

[bendywendy]

Wonder where this one fits in???

George Craven Wormald  Married 36  (c 1845) born Swinefleet Carpenter/Seaman  1881 cen
on board SS Altonia of Goole berthed at Goole RG11  4703/122

Birth:-
George Craven Wormald Mar Q 1878  Goole Dist  9c 755  FreeBMD

Marriage:-
George Craven Wormald to either Caroline Wild or  Mary Ann Owens
 Dec Q 1874 Goole Dist 9c 1085      FreeBMD


Death:-
George Craven Wormald age 59 Goole Dist  Jun Q 1904  9c 457    FreeBMD

I have found some other Wormald in Goole who are also Mariners/Seamen etc., so very possible
that a Craven sister married into this family??

Maria Wormald  Head Widow 58 born Swinefleet  Wife of Seaman
John H Wormald  Son  Um  23 born Swinefleet  Farm Lab
High St, Swinefleet  RG11  4700/15   24

Bendywendy

[bendywendy]

I think this could be the birth of:-

John Craven  Mar Q 1838  Howden Dist (covers Wallingfen which is Newport)

BUT is 10 years out (c 1828) from his age of 1881 census on board "Albina".

Is anyone able to follow this up with an earlier birth or possible parents from PR???

IGI
John Craven  Bap  19 Jan 1790 Eastrington
Father  John Craven

IGI
John Craven  birth c 1794 Blacktoft or Eastrington
married
Ellin/Ellen  Tate/Taite   27th May 1821  Eastrington Parish 

IGI
George Craven  Bap  2 May  1830  Eastrington
William Craven Bap 2 Jun 1822 Eastrington
Ann Craven  Bap  11 Jan 1825  Eastrington
Father John Craven  Mother Ellen

IGI
Thomas Craven married  Nancy Scott  30 Dec 1834  Eastrington
IGI
Thomas Craven  bap  10 Jan 1836  Eastrington
John Craven bap 25 Apr 1838 Eastrington
Father  Thomas Craven Mother Nancy

IGI
John Craven  married  Margret Maw  5 Oct 1814  Eastrington

IGI
Sarah Craven  married  John Precious  15 Dec  1828  Eastrington

IGI
Ann Craven married  George Hewson  26 Dec 1815 Eastrington

IGI
Charlotte Craven bap 7 Dec 1815 Eastrington
Mary Craven bap 17 Mar 1817 Eastrington
Charlotte Craven bap 21 Oct 1819 Eastrington
John Craven bap 6 Aug 1821 Eastrington
Father  James Craven  Mother  Isabella

IGI
Ann Craven  Bap  14 Feb 1817  Eastrington
Father Thomas Craven  Mother Susannah

IGI
Mary Craven Bap 3 Sep 1820  Eastrington
Father Benjamin Craven  Mother  Margaret


Bendywendy

[bendywendy]

Some general information regarding Wallingfen/Newport, New Village and New Gilberdyke, they are all now Newport.
For many decades this area did not have a Church of England, so the parishioners had to attend church at Eastrington or North Cave for all events Bap, Marr and Burials.

Because parishioners had to go to another village church, it makes finding information difficult and does not mean that they lived within the parish of said church, so one has to keep an open mind and search a little wider.

The areas mentioned did have 3 Methodist Churches and at least 1/2 Meeting Houses, which also
makes searching difficult.

Newport Church of England Registers started about 1896.

Hope this information helps others searching this area.

[bendywendy]

Some info re 1851 census from a knowledgeable friend:-

George 58 (c1793) born Newport and Wife Ann 56 (c1795) born Gilberdyke living Skipton? 

George born c 1822 Newport, he was a footman in 1851 at Cambridge, Butler in 1861 in Marylebone, a ManServant in 1871 in Hove , and a Watchman in 1881 in Lancs.

Thomas 63 (c1788) born Newport wife Nancy 56 (c1795) born Market Weighton living Newport. 

William 27 (c1824) born Newport a Sailor living with family Broomfleet. 

Thomas 15 (c1836) born Newport working on a farm.
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Sorry I havent been able to find out any Cravens in Rawcliffe in 1901 (havent got any info on 1911).
Also looked  for John but unable to find him in 1841 or 51 so cant confirm his parents, as John senior doesnt appear either.
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As you know researching Newport is a nightmare, every surrounding village had some people from Newport in their registers before 1896 when the church opened, and then all the other missions etc.
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It is very possible the baptisms etc are most likely entered in the Methodist Registers, when I go next to the Treasure House at Bevereley I will look for them, but it is not easy as these Registers are all "ad-ock", not very well kept in order either !!!

Bendywendy

[bendywendy]

This is the only baptism found for Rawcliffe in Baptism Transcriptions CD (1691-1927)

17 Jun 1906, Clara Craven, dau Benjamin & Ada Craven, Police Constable, Low Moor

There are no burials listed in my friends Transcription Booklets (1753-1900) for Rawcliffe
for Craven.

Now I will have to ask if these are from the Parish Church or the Methodist Church Registers,
will post back on here.

Bendywendy

[bendywendy]

Craven from Goole to Hull, as in email from Dorothy in Oz:-

""George Tom and Caroline Craven moved from Goole to live at 119 Balfour Street, Hull, because my Great Grandad and Grandma where living in Sabina Terrace, Balfour Street.
After the Great Grandma & Grandie died, Grandad/Grandma moved into their house, and my Mum was married from there on Feb. 27th 1930, when she was 19"".

I think Dorothy means it was John Craven, the great grandfather living in Hull at Sabina Terrace etc.??
If this is correct then John Craven might have been "shipping" from Hull with George Tom Craven his son. Has anyone got any shipping records to confirm this??

Can anyone find them on the 1891/1901/1911 census in Hull???

This has to be the connection with the Hull Craven lot as they donated all the Craven pics etc to Goole Library in connection with the Craven of Goole and Hull.

Any info on the streets etc., would be wonderful, also any Craven info of Hull too.

Bendywendy

[Bee]

Hi

Taken from the 1933 Kelly's Directory for Hull

Craven, George Tom., mariner, 119 Balfour Street

also
Craven, Fredk., engine driver, 106 Balfour Street

from the 1925 directory for Hull

George Tom Craven is still at 119 Balfour Street, but Fredk Craven is not listed.

Bee
 

[Bee]

Hi
1901 census RG13/4424 folio 71 page 35
36 Gray Street, Goole

CRAVEN
George T/head/m/41/seaman/Goole
Caroline I/wife/m/38/London
Elizabeth E/dau/12/Goole
Emmanuel B/son/10/Goole
Lilian/dau/8/Goole
Henry W/son/5/Goole
John/son/3/Goole
Joe W/son/2/Goole
Harold/son/4 months/Goole
George T/son/single/18/seaman/London Rotherhithe
Caroline I/dau/single/14/Goole

possible marriage from freebmd
March 1/4 1882 St Olave 1d 301
George Tom Craven
on the same page is Caroline Isabella Mowser

Bee
 

[Bee]

and 1891 census RG12/3873 folio 140 page 39
36 Victoria Street, Hook

CRAVEN
George T/head/m/31/mariner/Goole
Caroline/wife/m/27/London Bow
George T/son/8/London Rotherhithe
Caroline I/dau/4/Goole
Elizabeth E/dau/3/Goole
Emmanuel B/son/1 month/Goole


I'm getting confused as to who we are searching for, so could you do a recap, please.

Bee