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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #405 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 11:12 BST (UK) »



 From the 1700s many of the records document mortgages, as property was leveraged to raise money for new business ventures; the creation and dissolution of business partnerships; or even defining the assets and ownership of a business.
Other deeds include marriage settlements, and in some instances legal agreements of separation.

The Registry also memorialised many wills, especially where there were overseas assets or where designated heirs lived outside Ireland.

Wills were commonly memorialised if they were contentious, i.e. bequests to a mistress or to natural children born outside marriage.
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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #406 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 13:50 BST (UK) »
It only proves they were living in Clontarf Parish for 15 days prior to Marriage.

Thanks for that clarification.
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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #407 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 15:24 BST (UK) »


I still reckon it is Lady Anne Burke


 Lady Anne de Burgh was the daughter of Michael Bourke, 10th Earl of Clanricarde and Anne Smith.

She married Denis Daly, son of Denis Daly and Anastasia D'Arcy, in 1735

She died in January 1794
 
Children of Lady Anne de Burgh and Denis Daly
     
 Denis Daly

    Letitia Daly
    Anastacia Daly  Margaret Daly  d. 1825    Michael Daly  b. c 1744, d. 23 Oct 1808



....but will we ever know??








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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #408 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 19:46 BST (UK) »
While I can understand the logic in support of Lady Anne de Burgh(or possibly her daughter in law,Lady Joanna Gore,aka Lady Ann Daly),I have accessed portraits of both in a private tree,with the owners authority.While they are both portraits later in life,both feature such strong nasal aquiline features that I seriously doubt it could be either of them.
Later today or tomorrow I will publish some data,which,while not solving the puzzle,will add to the Sutherland family as per the 1844 deed identified by Hallmark.Again,there is an anomaly at the heart of it!

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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #409 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 19:55 BST (UK) »

Grrrr.... Hyacinth Daly is a Tokay too when Michael's daughter Ann married Eyre.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ4-C9MN-X?i=541&cat=185720

Michael's Will that Sutherland is administrating could be interesting!



Still have my money on Ann Burke.    James Francis Burke's (  Mother/Gran??  )   ;D







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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #410 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 20:00 BST (UK) »
While I can understand the logic in support of Lady Anne de Burgh(or possibly her daughter in law,Lady Joanna Gore,aka Lady Ann Daly),I have accessed portraits of both in a private tree,with the owners authority.While they are both portraits later in life,both feature such strong nasal aquiline features that I seriously doubt it could be either of them.
Later today or tomorrow I will publish some data,which,while not solving the puzzle,will add to the Sutherland family as per the 1844 deed identified by Hallmark.  Again,there is an anomaly at the heart of it!

Regards
Roger


is it Lady An O'Maly   ??   ;D  ;D  ;D


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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #411 on: Wednesday 09 October 19 23:16 BST (UK) »
Just wanted to add now...before I log off...a snip from the 1827 will for James Sutherland who we have now earmarked (I think!) as a likely father to Captain John Sutherland. This section is the part that refers to Captain John Sutherland, natural son to James:

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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #412 on: Thursday 10 October 19 00:49 BST (UK) »
Thanks Monica but a little fuzzy to easily read for me.
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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #413 on: Thursday 10 October 19 08:27 BST (UK) »
Sorry,Hallmark,only just got your joke-getting slow in old age!

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Roger