Lady Ann of Clontarf?

[Joseph L. Oliver]

Hi Hallmark.  Good to see you back in the thread.

Not sure what to make of your post.  Is this something I can access?

Oh, and Roger:  in light of my current James - Francis - naming pattern interest, I went back and found your post near the bottom of page 27 very interesting. 

Joe

[hallmark]

it's a manuscript one can read in the reading room!! Posting about its existence!

[whiteout7]

Naming patterns can be unreliable as some Scottish families chose to name children after people they admired rather than ancestors

[despair]

Thinking about naming patterns would the name Katherine(or Catherine) appear in a first or subsequent daughter? Is this an indicator that I have the wrong family or that there is another daughter to be discovered?

Regards
Roger

[hasta]

Joe O and Roger
I'm attaching a newspaper article which fleshes out the Daly family - particularly the marriages of Michael Daly's sisters,  Margaret Daly to Charles Blake and Anastasia Daly to Sir George Brown. Margaret Daly's son Charles Blake then marries his cousin Georgina Brown (daughter of Anastasia Daly and Sir George Brown. Georgina is described as a "first cousin of James Caulfield - Lord Kilnaine"
So there is a connection to the Earls of Charlemont but through Anastasia Daly's marriage to George Brown. Have a read - it's pretty dense going !

[despair]

Thanks,Hasta - dense is hardly an adequate description! The Lady Anne Daly mentioned is the wife of Den(n)is Daly of Raford,I believe,different to the Lady Ann Daly,wife of Michael Daly of Mount Pleasant and Tokay Lodge,father of Den(n)nis Daly of the Galway Militia.

Regards
Roger

[despair]

The lack of a known Catherine in James Francis' family and the very specific date for Jessie Sutherland's birth not coinciding with the Jane of John Sutherland(Galway Militia)'s family cast definite doubt on my proposed solution.Your arguments re the names Francis,James William etc are obviously valid but equally don't have birth/baptismal records to support it under the names Burke,Caulfeild or Charlemont.
It is theoretically possible,but highly unlikely,that both strands are true,each yielding a Lady Ann(e) from the different sides of the marriage,allowing James Francis to reflect his heritage in naming the children.It might favour my solution for Lady Ann(e),with the caveats above,as this comes through the female side,in line with family legend.
Let's hope the nudging works and the portrait reveals some new evidence!

Regards
Roger

[hallmark]

Roger:

Actually, the ship manifest listed Jessie Burke and M Burke.

And yes, Francis Xavier, John James, and Mary Hellen were all born in St. Xavier Church in Cincinnati.

The Falcon departed Liverpool and landed in Philidelphia in October 1850, which agrees with information James related in other records.

Joe

 were all born in St. Xavier Church??? 

[hallmark]

Letters mainly to Kean O'Hara, the younger, of Co. Sligo from the Rev. Toby Caulfield, with some letters by other members of the Caulfeild family, containing references to family and estate matters with some mention of parliamentary affairs, 20 Mar. 1696 - 27 Dec. 1762.

58 items  Dublin: National Library of Ireland   Ms. 20,388