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Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« Reply #54 on: Sunday 26 July 09 22:56 BST (UK) »
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The marriage cert for George Smith and Grace Ann Young is:

March q, 1839, Berwick vol 25 page 7.

You could try those unindexed Bishop's Transcripts for free :

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=imageBrowser;c=1309819;w=442

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http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ 

This will cost £7 for the certificate


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Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« Reply #55 on: Sunday 26 July 09 23:16 BST (UK) »
Hi

I've been plodding through the Norham BTs. The marriage should be around page 225-226 but I can't find them. They seem to have just baptisms and burials for 1839. It should be 16th March 1839 according to the IGI.

Maybe my eyes are giving out for the night!


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Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« Reply #56 on: Monday 27 July 09 00:25 BST (UK) »
I did that too.  No luck.  I've ordered the b.c.
.  I have come to a dead end with George snr father.
 Hopefully info on certificate.
 I am going to look up anything about william Smith now, who could be his brother.
Had a look at Thornton Farm present day.  Quite somethiing.

Pity my grandpa missed out . 
Seems he was the only child born to Grace's children.
I am also going to follow up Helen Young.

It seems the same families kept breeding together - as you say kept the land together!

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Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« Reply #57 on: Friday 31 July 09 01:25 BST (UK) »
Trying to find out more re the police house in Norham . John and sister Christian were living in it for a

while after Christian was a widow.  Reason - came across ref to Sergeant Nicholson Norham and

there must be a link here somewhere!

Ref in North East England News May 5th 1894.

The jigsaw gets more involved!

Is there anyway I can do this?





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Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« Reply #58 on: Friday 31 July 09 01:39 BST (UK) »
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I don't see him on the 1891 in Norham or a death, although he could have died outside of the area which would mean that his death would be registered whee he died.

The Berwickshire Advertizer might have something but I'm not sure if it would be available in the online old newspapers. It's not available in the Newcastle Local Studies Library  :-\

I'm not really up on the local newspapers of that part of Northumberland.

http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Newspapers.html



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« Reply #59 on: Friday 31 July 09 01:48 BST (UK) »
Go here:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~agene/norhammi/page66.html

In loving memory of James Nicholson who died at Thornton 26th May 1887..............Christian Smith his wife .....................



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Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« Reply #60 on: Friday 31 July 09 06:26 BST (UK) »
Hi again  :)


I think that this is most likely to be the James Nicholson, husband of Christian.  The age and location fit and we know that Christian was still sngle in 1881:

1881
Murton Farm House, Murton
RG1/ 5131/109/ 6

James Nicholson,head, unm, 40, Farmer of 1117 acres employing 21 lab, 13 women and 3 boys, b. Norham
Sarah Nicholson, sister, unm, 39, of no occupation, b.Norham
Ann Casey, serv, 22, domestic servant, b. Scrimerston
Mary Davidson, servant, 19, domestic servant, b. Tweedmouth



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Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« Reply #61 on: Friday 31 July 09 06:33 BST (UK) »
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John and Christian had also lived at 93 main Street and the police house together

I'm not sure where the  police house fits in. Maybe Christian could have rented/bought it after James' death.  Where did you see that they lived there - was it in family documents? 

There is a Police Station in Norham:  on the 1891 census - occupied by Edward Bell, 50, police sergant, b. Edlingham and his family on the page before Christian (RG12/ 4269/115/12) and  on the 1901 census - occupied by Thomas Marshall, 43, Sergeant of Police, b. Scotland and his family  (RG13/4847/119/23

The Sgt Nicholson in the article that you read might have been an army sergant  rather than a policeman or he could have filled in between (say)  Edward Bell's retirement and the appointment of Thomas Marshall.


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Re: Ladykirk Farm 1851
« Reply #62 on: Friday 31 July 09 23:52 BST (UK) »
Hi again

thanks for the website link :)

I spent a while this morning trying to find a marriage between James and Christian but couldn't find anything 1881-1887. I might have missed it but I did try Chris* Smith to cover variations of her name. I recall one entry where there was a Mary Smith and a James Nicholson on the same page - a BErwick RD entry.  It's very puzzling.

I passed the turnings for Norham, Thornton Park, Etal and Ford at about 9.45 pm. It was raining and the light was going very fast so I didn't take any photos. We pass that way fairly often so will wait for a good day  :)


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