Kinvigs...

[margaret1]

William Crebbin died in 1799. His last child was born in 1797. He must have been fairly youngish and would have left Joney/Judith a widow with children.

I found a marriage in Rushen of a William Clucas to a Judith Crebbin widow on 20 Feb 1804. It's too bad that her previous maiden name isn't mentioned but it could be her 

mab

Good find mab!  I note they were married at Arbory, Judith being a widow from the Parish of Rushen Also there are  two marriage indexes (indices?) - one for 20th Feb 1804 and the other 28th Feb - On the image it is written as 2∅th Feb 1∅04, indicating 28th may be the correct one. What do you think?
Margaret

[margaret1]

Hope this link works.

https://www.mannincloud.info/wills/179/1799_025.html

Will of William Crebbin 1799

Yes the link worked fine thank you mabs - this is so good! All five children are mentioned in the Will along with Jony.

Margaret

[Frances_mnb]

much of this info is freely available on www.manxnotebook.com but I found few family history researchers are willing to do even basic research on the society they are attempting to dredge names from

[margaret1]

Nor have I found a death date for Jony as yet.

Margaret

Thanks to Frances we now know that Joney/Judith Crebbin nee Taylor married William Clucas.

Judith Clucas was buried 29 Oct 1837, Rushen parish at the age of 71. You can find these details on
www.imuseum.im

If you haven't used this site before let me know.

mab

imuseum is wonderful - I found Judith's burial details without any difficulty. This branch is certainly flourishing - I really appreciate all your hard work 

[forthefamily]

Good find mab!  I note they were married at Arbory, Judith being a widow from the Parish of Rushen Also there are  two marriage indexes (indices?) - one for 20th Feb 1804 and the other 28th Feb - On the image it is written as 2∅th Feb 1∅04, indicating 28th may be the correct one. What do you think?
Margaret

I saw the original record on Family Search. The confusion may be because of the old script. You can see that it should be the 20th...well in my humble opinion 

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?q.givenName=william&q.surname=clucas&q.marriageLikeDate.from=1804&q.marriageLikeDate.to=1804&f.recordCountry=Isle%20of%20Man&c.marriageLikeDate1=on&f.marriageLikeDate0=1800&count=20&offset=0&m.defaultFacets=on&m.queryRequireDefault=on&m.facetNestCollectionInCategory=on

Try this link and then refresh the page. You can see the original.

mab

[Frances_mnb]

the official 1911 transcription of registers had 28 Feb 1804 - if there is a second record then that is possibly a relict of the bane of the old IGI which managed to turn the silk purse of an excellent transcription into a sow's ear by selecting 'patron submitted' entries to replace many readings - catch is many of these patrons were totally unfamiliar with 18thC hand etc etc + the nonsense just built up

[margaret1]

much of this info is freely available on www.manxnotebook.com but I found few family history researchers are willing to do even basic research on the society they are attempting to dredge names from

It's been just over a year since my husband discovered that the vast majority of his paternal line were born and bred in the Isle of Man -  He hasn't visited the Island yet, however has become as fascinated as I, not only by it's history but all aspects of life there and is keen to discover as much as possible about his ancestors and his ancestral homeland. Thank you once again for the opportunity to explore and learn from your site - Ta keeayll ommidiys ny sloo my t'ee ee dooinney creeney dy reayll - "Wisdom is folly unless a wise man keeps it." From  www.manxnotebook.com Chapter X Proverbs and Sayings [From Folklore of the Isle of Man, A.W.Moore, 1891]

[margaret1]

the official 1911 transcription of registers had 28 Feb 1804 - if there is a second record then that is possibly a relict of the bane of the old IGI which managed to turn the silk purse of an excellent transcription into a sow's ear by selecting 'patron submitted' entries to replace many readings - catch is many of these patrons were totally unfamiliar with 18thC hand etc etc + the nonsense just built up

Thank you Frances_mnb  -   yet again this highlights  the importance of seeking out the official registers where they exist. I appreciate you taking the time to clarify and assist in ensuring that we have the correct information and guiding us to the source.

Margaret

[margaret1]

To complete my husband's line his 3rd great grandparent's were:

Philiip Cain b 1836 Braddan Isle of Man Bap 16 Oct 1836 Saint Luke's Baldwin died 21 Jan 1910 Camlork Braddan.
His parents were  Phillip Cain 1802 - 1875 Braddan and Catharine Ann Waterson 1812 - 1884 Braddan.

Phillip married 14 May 1864 Braddan IOM - Mary Ann Corkill bap 1840 Baldwin  died 28 Feb 1921 Pleasant Cottage Strang Isle of Man.

Her parents were  William Corkill b1802 Onchan d 1882 Douglas, Farmer Ballakewish Braddan (1851 and 1861 census) and Margaret Quirk b 1810 Braddan d 1887 Douglas Isle of Man.

Philip Cain and Mary Ann Corkill had 9 children including Robert Joseph Cain born 1865 Braddan, bap 30 Mar 1865 Saint Luke's Baldwin and died 7 Jul 1935 Pleasant Cottage Strang Isle of Man.

Philip Cain was a farmer at Ulican and later Camlork.

Margaret