Copland/Smith Marriage around 1812-6

[iwccc]

I have come to a stand still - can't seem to find the marriage certificate of William Copland and Agnes Smith.  I think William was born around 1787 and died 1863.  Agnes was born 1776 and died 1848.  I think their marriage would have been around 1812-1816. To date I can't seem to find a death certificate or marriage certificate.  I am particularly interested in also finding out Williams parents names.  The surname could be spelt Coupland.   I believe they lived in Glasgow.  Any suggestions or help would be appreciated. Thank you

[GR2]

You have years for the deaths of these people. How do you know them? Do you have them on a gravestone ? Have you found them in a census anywhere? These details could help narrow things down.

Graham.

[ev]

Hi 

Could this be William in 1851 -

http://www.maxwellancestry.com/census/51transcript.aspx?houseid=82117029

Some online trees have his death as 1863 Dumfries Dumfries(correct ?)

ev

Added - Submitted entry on IGI has his birth as 11th feb. 1787 and death as 27th june 1863 

[iwccc]

thank you for your prompt reply  The dates I have for births, marriages and death are all from public family tree research.  As my family has William, after William after William I am keen to try and find source records such as death certificate or marriage certificate etc. Todate each one I pay for from Scotlands People seems to be the wrong one. It's all very confusing.

[ev]

Have you looked at this one -
William Coupland death 1863 Dumfries Dumfries , born 1786(SP)

freeCEN website has a transcription for 1841
High St. Dumfries Dumfries'shire
William Copland 50 provision dealer
Agnes Copland 55
John Copland 20 hair dresser

Ages look to have been rounded down as per census instructions

http://www.freecen.org.uk/

Looking at the index on SP for the 1861 census there is a William Coupland age 75 Dumfries Dumfries

ev

[iwccc]

I am trying to find the father and mother of William Coupland  who was m. to 1. Agnes Smith b. 1776 and 2. Margaret Selby b. 1808 in Dumfries.
So far I have the death certificate of William Coupland (24th June, 1863) which shows that his father is 'John Coupland' - (Mason) and mother is Agnes Coupland.
On the other hand I have the IGI Record which shows that William Coupland b. 1787 was married to Agnes Smith about 1812 and that his parent was 'James Copland'
I have tried to resolve this but can't seem to find any other confirmation of which father is correct.  Can anyone help ?
Of course when I find if it is John or James I will want to know his wife's name also. Thank you

[iwccc]

I am researching the Copland/Coupland Family Tree.  I have gone back (with some evidence) to William Coupland b. 1787, d. 1863.  I understand he was married to Agnes Smith and Margaret Selby.
* In the IGI Individual Record William Coupland (b. 11 FEb.1787)  is shown as having James Copland  and Agnes  Smith as parents. His death is listed as 27 Jun 1863.
*On the  Death Certificate of 24th June, 1863 William is shown as having John Coupland (mason) as father and Agnes Coupland as mother.(marriage about 1812 Dumfries)
My dilemma is how do I find out who William's father is?  John or James?
Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you

[tika]

Have your looked at the 2 death entries on Scotlandpeople - they should show the spouses names which would lead you to the correct person.   As the death was 1863 this is after registration began in Scotland.

Morag

[Jeffrey]

Have you seen if any of them have left wills? You can look on Scotlandspeople.

Judy