James Hutchison

[hazelaberdeen]

shock horror monica

[hazelaberdeen]

I'm lost for words-who was the father?

[MonicaL]

Of the youngest two children? You would need to double check their birth entries but there may not be any name(s) included for father as you found on some the birth entries already...

Monica

[hazelaberdeen]

I printed out that 1911 Census and I see that they are also living in the same building as another James Stewart and his family. 
I see that there was a bit of a muddle on the records there but the thing that ties it together is David who was thought to be the youngest.  Many thanks to you Monica.

[MonicaL]

Hazel, looking through this post again, the one thing that stood out to me again was the age gap on the 1901 census between Robert aged 7 and then baby David (he must have been 6 months not 1 month old as showing on the transcript?). Big gap there. Either Mary and James split up/he died or there were a number of early deaths for their children.

I know you have David's descendants talking about the coal mining ref and possible Newcastle origins for David's father. We know that this background does not apply to James Hutchison.

Maybe your earlier comment is getting warmer to what may have happened?

...This particular James died on October 3rd 1899, and David was born in August 1900.  I have it on good authority and I have heard it on a recording in Edinburgh that David said that his father was a coalminer from Newcastle and that he was not from the Travelling Society.   Maybe the three youngest boys did have a different father.

Monica

[robhutch18]

Found Mary and children in 1911 for you both. The family was living at 36 Berry Street, St Nicholas Aberdeen. More children born after Charles...

Mary* STEWART or HUTCHESON, 43, mar.(ried), married 12 years, 4 children born/living. Occupation that of a pedlar. Born in Fraserburgh
David Hutcheson 10 b. Lonmay
Charles Hutcheson 8 b. Peterhead
Margaret Hutcheson 4 b. Aberdeen
Donald Hutcheson 2 b. Aberdeen

* Mary scored through and then Margaret written - writing not clear so not surprising about possible confusion.

Mary looks to have given confusing info on her census return which doesn't help  However, you have two new members of the family 

Monica

This just gets better and better Strange that nobody has heard of Margaret and Donald - will be interesting to find out what happened to them!

The address of Berry Street also rang a bell - Lizzie gave birth to her eldest child there (William Hutchison) - in 1910.

[robhutch18]

I printed out that 1911 Census and I see that they are also living in the same building as another James Stewart and his family.  I see that there was a bit of a muddle on the records there but the thing that ties it together is David who was thought to be the youngest.  Many thanks to you Monica.

Mary's oldest brother, Donald, had a son named James who was born in Pitsligo about 1868, so the James Stewart in the census may be Mary's nephew...

[robhutch18]

Hazel, looking through this post again, the one thing that stood out to me again was the age gap on the 1901 census between Robert aged 7 and then baby David (he must have been 6 months not 1 month old as showing on the transcript?). Big gap there. Either Mary and James split up/he died or there were a number of early deaths for their children.

I know you have David's descendants talking about the coal mining ref and possible Newcastle origins for David's father. We know that this background does not apply to James Hutchison.

Maybe your earlier comment is getting warmer to what may have happened?

...This particular James died on October 3rd 1899, and David was born in August 1900.  I have it on good authority and I have heard it on a recording in Edinburgh that David said that his father was a coalminer from Newcastle and that he was not from the Travelling Society.   Maybe the three youngest boys did have a different father.

Monica

It is possible that there could have been more children, however the ages in the 1901 census are deceiving - Robert is less than four years older than David. October, 1896 v August, 1900.

I think all we can be sure of is that James was the father of James, John and Lizzie... it is possible he is the father of Robert... it is unlikely he is the father of David (if his father is a miner from Newcastle)... it is almost certain he is not the father of Charles, Margaret and Donald.

[robhutch18]

Ok. I've downloaded the birth entries of Margaret and Donald and as expected they were both born illegitimate with no mention of the father.

Margaret McPhee Stewart was born on 14th of February, 1907 at 21 Shoe Lane, Aberdeen.

Donald Stewart was born on 10th of February, 1909 at 56 Hutcheon Street, Aberdeen.


Robert.