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« on: Tuesday 19 November 19 20:51 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for confirmation re the following births if possible please.
1 Annie E Pelzer c 1885/6 Dundee
2 Henry Francis Pelzer c1886/7 Dundee
3 William Pelzer c 1898 glasgow
4 Victoria Roberta Pelzer c 1900 Glasgow
5 Irving Edward Pelzer c 1906 Aberdeen.

The parents for all these children should be (Peter) Joseph Pelzer and Catherine Ann Brown (kate) What would be a huge bonus is the occupation if recorded of the father.

Any clues would be great.

Thanks

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Re: Pelzer
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 19 November 19 21:33 GMT (UK) »
You need to use Scotlands People to get that info or look for them on the various censuses to determine their parentage.  Looking at the 1901 seems to confirm that parents are Josef and Catherine but there is also a Violet b 1894 England & Grace b 1890 England

Josef is shown as a musical director
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Re: Pelzer
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 November 19 11:05 GMT (UK) »
As mentioned https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ will provide the information.
For £7;50 you will be able to view all 6 of the images below.

PELZER   ANNIE AGNES   F   1886   282/3 96   St Clement
PELZER   HENRY FRANCIS   M   1887   282/3 776   St Clement
PELZER   ARNOLD ERNEST E   M   1895   622/1 507   Maryhill
PELZER   WILLIAM CHARLES   M   1898   644/9 380   Kelvin
PELZER   VICTORIA ROBERT   F   1900   644/7 139   Blythswood
PELZER   IRVING EDWARD   M   1905   168/2 2038   St Machar

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Re: Pelzer
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 November 19 12:35 GMT (UK) »
It would appear that young Arnold died in infancy

PELZER ARNOLD ERNEST E, 3, died 1898, Ref 644/9 547, District Kelvin

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Re: Pelzer
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 November 19 12:38 GMT (UK) »
I wonder whether John is perhaps exploring a hypothesis that Josef/Joseph Pelzer is the same person as Joseph Andre?

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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Pelzer
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 November 19 12:45 GMT (UK) »
Interesting (and curious) household in 1891.

Oak Cottages, Hornspit Lane, West Derby, Lancs

Frederick Pollox Serv Wid 55 Gardener Germany
Dora Shaper Head S 18 Liverpool Lancs
Joseph Pelzer Cousin 8 Carlisle Cumberland
Agnes Pelzer Cousin 7 Carlisle
Henry Pelzer Cousin 6 Carlisle
Grace Pelzer Cousin 3 Carlisle

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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Pelzer
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 20 November 19 12:50 GMT (UK) »
Joseph Henry Pelzer born 25 November 1883 was baptised (Catholic) on 9 December 1883 in Liverpool.

Parents: Joseph Pelzer and Catherine formerly Brown.

Sponsors: Henry Brown, Ann(a) Starey?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Pelzer
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 20 November 19 12:53 GMT (UK) »
John, have you already found relevant records for the English-born children?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Pelzer
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 20 November 19 14:01 GMT (UK) »
By looking at the indices only (free to view), I can tell you that in 1901 the family were in Blythswood, Lanark. From the 1905 valuation rolls, Josef Pelzer was the tenant/occupier of 17 Elm Place, Aberdeen. Hope this helps :)
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