McLaren Family Dunkeld Perthshire

[Rosinish]

Census Scotland 1871  N Street Newtyle Angus
BEUKANSON Robert      72y    labourer                                  b. Larbert, Stirlingshire
BEUKANSON Charlotte  69y    labourers wife                          b. Newtyle Angus

Census Scotland 1851 Castle Street Newtyle Angus
BUCHANNAN Robert              52y   rail lbr                                   b. Larbert, stirlingshire
BUCHANNAN Charlotte          48y    wife grocer                            b. Newtyle, Forfarshire
BUCHANNAN Jean                  8y    dau                                       b. Newtyle, Forfarshire
McKENZIE    Jean                 13y   scholar niece                         b. Kingoldrum, Forfarshire

I've done some digging & can't fit the above with what we have so far.

This may be our Charlotte? (wife no. 2 of Isaac Johnston);

EASSON CHARLOTTE 18/07/1801
ALEXANDER EASSON/JEAN ANDREW 314/10 145 Newtyle

This is the other in the above census' i.e. not ours;

DEUCHARS CHARLOTTE 26/07/1801
ANDREW DEUCHARS/ELSPET MCPHERSON 314/10 145 Newtyle

Annie

[Rosinish]

Isaac Johnston CREE was the illegitimate son of
James Wighton Cree & Margaret Johnston who seems to be the daughter of
Isaac Johnston & Charlotte Buchanan? Easson who's parents seem to be
Robert Buchanan & Charlotte Deuchars William Johnston & Agnes Hutchison Charlotte's parents Alexander Easson & Jean Andrew

Deaths
1883 BUCHANAN ROBERT 83 --- 328/A 7 Alyth
1879 BUCHANAN or DEUCHARS CHARLOTTE 77 --- 328/A 6 Alyth (matching ref. for both surnames)

Edit to add...

Marriages;

BUCHANNAN ROBERT & CHARLOTTE DEUCHARS 29/01/1841 --- 282/230 4 Dundee (my discrepancy i.e. may not be correct as yet)?

JOHNSTONE ISAAC & CHARLOTTE EASSON 26/02/1826 --- 328/60 176 Alyth

Death for our Charlotte;

JOHNSTON CHARLOTTE 78 (b c1802) --- 1880 ---328/A 30 Alyth / EASSON CHARLOTTE 78 ---1880 --- 328/A 30 Alyth

Add...Birth

JOHNSTON ISAAC 15/01/1786
WILLIAM JOHNSTON/AGNES HUTCHISON --- 328/30 64 Alyth

Siblings;

JOHNSTON AGNES
WILLIAM JOHNSTON (no mother's name) 10 NOVEMBER 1783 ALYTH ASSOCIATE

JOHNSTON MARGARET
WILLIAM JOHNSTON (no mother's name) 29 FEBRUARY 1784 ALYTH ASSOCIATE

Then a big gap i.e. probably unrecorded/damaged/lost births in between...

JOHNSTON JAMES 1794
WILLIAM JOHNSTON/AGNES HUTCHISON 20 JULY 1794 ALYTH ASSOCIATE


Annie

[Kiwibarb]

Gosh Annie what can I say.  Going to take me a year to get through all this at my pace 

I do have a possible date of marriage for Agnes Hutchison and William Johnston from Ancestry.
4 Dec. 1781

Many many thanks once again.

Kind regards,
Barbara

[Rosinish]

Apologies, missed it from my list when I copied & pasted the last lot;

All my refs. are from SP unless I show another link.

JOHNSTON WILLIAM --- AGNES HUTCHISON --- 270/40 206 Airlie


This looks to be the son of Isaac Johnston & Margaret Soutar...

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01oqd/

DoD 27 Mar 1892

JOHNSTON WILLIAM 80 --- 1892 --- 328/A 19 Alyth

Annie

[Kiwibarb]

Annie,  Please no apologies needed at all.
Just looking on SP and wondering if I ordered a certificate for a marriage in the very early years, would it give me more info like parents etc and witnesses or would a digital copy as per pay by view be the same.  Sorry have not had a certificate from SP for marriage before.

Decided to purchase marriage Agnes Hutchinson and William Johnston marriage.  It appears twice on the page.  Once Dec 4th then again Dec 18th.  Both identical but not able to read some of the wording.  Could this be banns rather than marriage and there is a third date?

Any help appreciated thanks.

[Forfarian]

These are the records of the proclamations of banns.

On Dec 4th: William Johnston in the Parish of Alyth and Agnes Hutchison in this Parish were procl[aime]d pro 1mo
On Dec 18th: William Johnston in the Parish of Alyth and Agnes Hutchison in this Parish were procl[aime]d pro 3tio

'Pro 1mo' is an abbreviation for 'pro primo', which is Latin meaning 'for the first time'
'Pro 3tio' is an abbreviation for 'pro tertio', which is Latin meaning 'for the third time'

The procedure was that you told the clerk or minister that you intended to marry, and your intention then had to be proclaimed three times in your parish church. Once that had been done, and provided that no-one had raised any valid objections, you could then be married.

Normally you just find a record saying that the couple's banns had been 'duly proclaimed' but in a few parishes the individual proclamations were recorded separately (I wonder why there is no record of them being proclaimed pro 2do on 11 December?). It's quite common for the date of the actual wedding not to be in the record.

[Kiwibarb]

Forfarian,
Thank you for the explanation.  I was aware of banns, as married in Anglican church,  but not aware for Church of Scotland.
 Just learning about Scottish records.
I wonder if the marriage was on the next page and may need to look at that?

Will take a further look to see what I can find.

Thank you.

Regards
Barbara

[Forfarian]

If there had been a separate record of the actual marriage ceremony, it would be indexed on Scotland's People. By all means have a look, but I think you are eventually going to have to accept that the date of the wedding ceremony is not on record anywhere.

[Forfarian]

Just looking on SP and wondering if I ordered a certificate for a marriage in the very early years, would it give me more info like parents etc and witnesses

No. The digital image contains all the information recorded at the time.

Before the start of statutory civil registration in 1855, there was no such thing as a marriage certificate. The only records before 1855 are the church registers, and occasionally, for better-off families, an announcement in a newspaper.