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Sarah Barden
« on: Tuesday 07 April 20 17:28 BST (UK) »
Just a quick post here as I only have a little info. I'm hoping someone can help identify a christening for Sarah Barden c1745 possibly in the Fletching, Slinfold or Billingshurst areas of Sussex.

Hope someone can help.

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Re: Sarah Barden
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 April 20 16:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Matt,

Any other info at all? Quite a large area to look through. What info led you to believe it would be in this area?

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Sean
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Re: Sarah Barden
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 April 20 19:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Matt,

Any other info at all? Quite a large area to look through. What info led you to believe it would be in this area?

Regards
Sean

Hi Sean

Sarah married John Botting in Fletching on 1 May 1766. They had 9 children who were all christened in Fletching between 1767 and 1779 [with the exception of their daughter Ann who was christened c1774 in Slinfold].

John Botting himself was christened in Fletching in January 1738/39.

It is more likely that Sarah was christened in Fletching as that is where she was married but other nearby parishes such as Slinfold and Billingshurst may be worth looking at as well.

Matt


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Re: Sarah Barden
« Reply #3 on: Friday 24 April 20 13:59 BST (UK) »
Sarah was buried in Fletching 25 Aug 1818 at the age of 82. This puts her birth a bit before your suggested time at around 1736. [Provided I have the right burial!]

There are a few likely candidates, here are their baptisms:
Herstmonceux on 8 Sep 1736 to Nicholas & Mary
Heathfield 30 Nov 1735 to John & Sarah (BARTON)
Heathfield 19 Sep 1738 to Richard & Elizabeth (BARTON)
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Re: Sarah Barden
« Reply #4 on: Friday 24 April 20 22:17 BST (UK) »
Sarah was buried in Fletching 25 Aug 1818 at the age of 82. This puts her birth a bit before your suggested time at around 1736. [Provided I have the right burial!]

There are a few likely candidates, here are their baptisms:
Herstmonceux on 8 Sep 1736 to Nicholas & Mary
Heathfield 30 Nov 1735 to John & Sarah (BARTON)
Heathfield 19 Sep 1738 to Richard & Elizabeth (BARTON)

Hi there

Thanks for that. It sounds about right in terms of her year of birth as I guessed she could be a year or two older or younger that John. If she was born in 1736 she'd be about 30 when married, 36 when their first child was born and 43 when the last was born in 1779 so it does seem a likely fit.

Does the burial say if she was a widow or not when buried? I assume this is on Findmypast.

Thanks again and I'll see if I can find out anything on the candidates you put forward.

Best Wishes
Matt

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Re: Sarah Barden
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 25 April 20 09:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Matt,

The burial info was from the Sussex Family History Group but I checked it on the parish registers at FamilySearch. It does not say whether she was a widow or not but all the burials for a John Botting were before hers. The National Archives holds a will for a John Botting Carpenter of Fletching but I am not sure it is the same one married to Sarah Barden, so father or son. They are free to download at the moment, might be worth a look.

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Re: Sarah Barden
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 May 20 23:33 BST (UK) »
Hi

I've been doing some more digging on this lady in order to try to establish which candidate is more likely to be mine. Herstmoneux where Sarah dau of Nicholas and Mary was christened is 14 miles from Fletching where she married John Botting. On the other hand Heathfield, where there are two candidates [one in 1735 and one in 1738] is 10 miles away.

14 miles seems possible and a 1736 birth would fit with the burial in 1818. Then again 10 miles certainly seems closer but I can't see a burial I can't see a burial for either of the two Sarah BARTONS christened there.

Do you have any suggestions or ideas?

Many Thanks
Matt


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Re: Sarah Barden
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 May 20 01:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Matt

I think I may have solved this.

On 18 Feb 1727 in Fletching Francis PAGE married Ann HOMEWOOD.

They had the following children

Ann 1733,  Mary 1730, twins Jane and Edmund 1739 but they also had a daughter SARAH bpt. 22 Feb 1735.

On September 30th 1741 Francis Page was buried.

Five months later (using the Julian calendar still ) on the 23  February 1741 there is this marriage in Fletching

John BARDIN of Maresfield married Ann PAGE of Fletching

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYQ8-ND?i=259&cat=583952

Hope the link works - Francis Pages burial and the Bardin/Page  marriage is on that image.

I think Sarah used the name Bardin/Barden instead of her birth name , what do you think ?

Claire

PS - after looking at a prior post about the abstract of a Will I gave  - it was in the Tyler abstracts on Ancestry
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Re: Sarah Barden
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 May 20 02:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Matt

I think I may have solved this.

On 18 Feb 1727 in Fletching Francis PAGE married Ann HOMEWOOD.

They had the following children

Ann 1733,  Mary 1730, twins Jane and Edmund 1739 but they also had a daughter SARAH bpt. 22 Feb 1735.

On September 30th 1741 Francis Page was buried.

Five months later (using the Julian calendar still ) on the 23  February 1741 there is this marriage in Fletching

John BARDIN of Maresfield married Ann PAGE of Fletching

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DYQ8-ND?i=259&cat=583952

Hope the link works - Francis Pages burial and the Bardin/Page  marriage is on that image.

I think Sarah used the name Bardin/Barden instead of her birth name , what do you think ?

Claire

PS - after looking at a prior post about the abstract of a Will I gave  - it was in the Tyler abstracts on Ancestry

Hi Claire

Wow I think you've done it again! It definitely looks like you solved the puzzle which is fantastic, I did think the other two places I had looked at where less likely. Heathfield could be a possibility as it is only 10 miles away, but I think it does make more sense for her to be from the same parish.

Have you seen the will you mentioned btw? Can you let me know anything about it as I don't have Ancestry myself.

I'm off to investigate this lot now.

Many, many thanks again.

Best Wishes
Matt