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Re: Mary Cave ....a puzzle
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 04 January 22 04:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi Neale,
well, that is a possibility. He may have been working in that area.
Thankyou
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Bissett - Scotland
Butler - Yorkshire
Butt - Dorset
Butterworth - Yorkshire
Cave - Somerset
Darby - Somerset
Grierson - Scotland
Kruger/Krueger - Prussia, Germany
Lecher - Cottbus, Brandenburg, Germany
Levick - Nottinghamshire, UK
Molde - Schleswig-Holstein, Denmark/Germany
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Re: Mary Cave ....a puzzle
« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 04 January 22 04:59 GMT (UK) »
Sue,  I wonder ... would that Vic BDM registration note the cemetery and/or the funeral director?   It seems to me that the CAVE family would likely have been well aware of Mary's husband's deterioration and therefore have perhaps organised his funeral and burial, perhaps fully funding it.   Would the Vic BDM record include the names of the 'official witnesses' ... and or the name/denomination of the clergy ... Clergy would record burials in the local parish register and transmit at least a summary to their Diocese/head quarters.  The church burial register should be extant.   It is also possible that the funeral director records may still be extant, particularly if the F.D firm has continued to trade.  And, of course the cemetery records should also be extant. So perhaps our OP has further opportunities to sort the puzzle.   

JM

Hi JM, Below lists the basic findings on a Victorian Death Certificate from 1853 forward.
However there is always a great variation in the amount and quality of information on the completed form. Some will have additional notes to aid definite identification while others have a bit of "can't really be bothered " approach with little effort or attention to detail or truth!.

I have definitely seen burial arrangements included and knowing where the death took place makes cemetery searches a possibility.

It is just not possible to guess what this certificate may hold.
Current cost of immediate download  is $15.

Name
Date
Death place
Age
Occupation
Cause of death
Parents' names
Spouse names
Marriage details
Chns names
No of chn
Birthplace
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Mary Cave ....a puzzle
« Reply #47 on: Wednesday 05 January 22 02:47 GMT (UK) »
Hello all,
I have purchased the unofficial death certificate of David Thomas and also researched Melbourne in 1855.

He died on the 6th January 1855 as was surmised, at the Wesleyan Immigrants Home.
His occupation was listed as a joiner.
25 year old David's cause of death was "Fever and Dysentery 11 days"
Nothing else....no parents, wife, wife's family, nothing.

Perhaps he had been in Melbourne for that year.

Upon researching, I found that Melbourne was over-run with GOLD FEVER. 20,000 people arrived looking for Gold. "The roaring 50's"

The Wesleyan Immigrants Home was built to assist the homeless and provided accommodation for 100 men and 100 women.
The banks of the Yarra were packed with people trying to make a living and scavenge food.

Must have been a sad time for many.

I was going to attach the certificate but was unable to post it.
However, upon playing with my computer I was able to decipher the name of the home.
It seems that this was a common occurrence so not many details are listed.

Bye for now,
Chris
Berg - Uppsala, Sweden
Bissett - Scotland
Butler - Yorkshire
Butt - Dorset
Butterworth - Yorkshire
Cave - Somerset
Darby - Somerset
Grierson - Scotland
Kruger/Krueger - Prussia, Germany
Lecher - Cottbus, Brandenburg, Germany
Levick - Nottinghamshire, UK
Molde - Schleswig-Holstein, Denmark/Germany
Oram - Wiltshire & Somerset, UK
Randell - Devon, UK
Savren - Dorset, UK
Weilbach - Denmark & South Africa
Williams - Cornwall, UK


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Re: Mary Cave ....a puzzle
« Reply #48 on: Wednesday 05 January 22 03:18 GMT (UK) »
Ah well!
Disappointing.  I think it is not the man after all.  Draper to joiner is not likely especially as he was not a well person with his addiction and so on.

Yes, there was a great movement to Victoria in the 1850's and that is why I wondered if he had joined the surge to try his luck on the goldfields.

There are other possibilities.  Perhaps he headed back to England, perhaps he died shortly after his release from the Hospital and the record is lost.

Anyhow, you are further progressed in the search than originally and I think it would be fair to say Mary's second marriage  was not bigamous as you had feared.

Sue
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Re: Mary Cave ....a puzzle
« Reply #49 on: Wednesday 05 January 22 03:29 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou
          Sue for your interest. It has been an Education!
Yes, as soon as I saw the occupation, I thought he was the wrong one. I have, however emailed the Hospitals Records in Victoria to see if they have any more.
I do not think they will though, their records start from 1856 I think.

Certainly a puzzle.

I will look further into emigration back to England.

Thanks to all of you.
I will close this off now.
Cheers, Chris
Berg - Uppsala, Sweden
Bissett - Scotland
Butler - Yorkshire
Butt - Dorset
Butterworth - Yorkshire
Cave - Somerset
Darby - Somerset
Grierson - Scotland
Kruger/Krueger - Prussia, Germany
Lecher - Cottbus, Brandenburg, Germany
Levick - Nottinghamshire, UK
Molde - Schleswig-Holstein, Denmark/Germany
Oram - Wiltshire & Somerset, UK
Randell - Devon, UK
Savren - Dorset, UK
Weilbach - Denmark & South Africa
Williams - Cornwall, UK