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Re: John Valente
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 18:11 BST (UK) »
1911 (from the tree) wife is Annie and 2 children b Glasgow.

I don’t suppose John Valente was in England and Scotland in 1911?

The marriages show different Valenti fathers and Mr Pelosi’s death in 1918  is reported by his daughter Esther DeMarco.

Has Margaret Taylor been found as Margaret Ann?

I think we should assume they were 2 men named John Valente, one of whom married in Glasgow in 1905, unless there is firm evidence to link that John Valente to the one on 1911 census in Manchester.
Is there a name for a father of Maria Nunziata Pelosi or for Glasgow Annie?

Browsing Pelosi/Palossi &c baptisms & marriages in & around Manchester. There was a Pelosi family, Ferdinand & Scholastica at 7 Jersey St. I found at least 2 Pelosi & Pelosi marriages in Ancoats, including "Fortunatum" (Ferdinand?) and Scholastica.

Di Marco, Pelosi and Valente are all on a surnames list of Scottish-Italians in 1930s. 20+ entries for Pelosi and for Valente in Glasgow. Di Marco was also in Glasgow. "Family Portrait - the Scots Italians 1890-1940" National Library of Scotland.   
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Re: John Valente
« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 18:22 BST (UK) »
I am wary of pursuing the Pelosi family - I think there are two John Valentes but here is Nancy in 1901 with her parents’ names.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X929-QKH
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Re: John Valente
« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 18:23 BST (UK) »

Mary Valente who is the daughter of John Valente and mother is called taylor so the Pelosi wont be the same

What I was trying to do was find out if there were any children born to the Valente-Pelosi couple + birthplaces & years of birth, then probably use that information to eliminate the John Valente who married in Glasgow. I think he's a red herring.
 
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Re: John Valente
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 18:31 BST (UK) »
I am wary of pursuing the Pelosi family - I think there are two John Valentes but here is Nancy in 1901 with her parents’ names.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X929-QKH

She had a sister named Esther.  :-\ Their father was Gastoni  :-\
What was the Glasgow Pelosi bride's father's name?
You found a Pelosi death, informant was his daughter, Esther Di Marco. Where was that? 
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Re: John Valente
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 18:40 BST (UK) »

I dont have john Valente in scotland in 1911 just 1905 marrying a Nancy Pelosi on the family tree she linked john Valente to a 135 Jersey Street
 

Which family tree? Is it a tree you were given or is it a tree on a family history website?
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Re: John Valente
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 20:28 BST (UK) »

I dont have john Valente in scotland in 1911 just 1905 marrying a Nancy Pelosi on the family tree she linked john Valente to a 135 Jersey Street
 

Which family tree? Is it a tree you were given or is it a tree on a family history website?

pelosi tree on ancestry

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Re: John Valente
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 20:35 BST (UK) »

Mary Valente who is the daughter of John Valente and mother is called taylor so the Pelosi wont be the same

What I was trying to do was find out if there were any children born to the Valente-Pelosi couple + birthplaces & years of birth, then probably use that information to eliminate the John Valente who married in Glasgow. I think he's a red herring.

John Valente married Nancy Pelosi 1905 had antonia and adelina now these pelosi were registered at 3 jersey street ancoats and johann Valente but on the 1911 its john from johann

margaret on the bdm changes to annie on the census

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/44873572/family?cfpid=6310822589

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Re: John Valente
« Reply #52 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 20:36 BST (UK) »

I dont have john Valente in scotland in 1911 just 1905 marrying a Nancy Pelosi on the family tree she linked john Valente to a 135 Jersey Street
 

Which family tree? Is it a tree you were given or is it a tree on a family history website?

pelosi tree on ancestry

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/44873572/family?cfpid=6310822589

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Re: John Valente
« Reply #53 on: Tuesday 10 May 22 21:05 BST (UK) »

John Valente married Nancy Pelosi 1905 had antonia and adelina now these pelosi were registered at 3 jersey street ancoats and johann Valente but on the 1911 its john from johann

margaret on the bdm changes to annie on the census

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/tree/44873572/family?cfpid=6310822589

If you look at the tree you have linked, the two children are born in Scotland.

Scotland’s People shows births:
Adelina Valente 1906 Gorbals
Antonio Valente 1907 Gorbals

These ‘fit’ with 1911 children Tony 3 yrs and Edith 5 yrs.

Whilst it is possible they are connected to your family, they are not the ones you are following if the 1911 family in Manchester are yours.
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