John Valente

[heywood]

She is registered as Margaret Mary. September quarter Salford vol 8d pg 115

But in 1891 census she is M Ann.

1891 census
Piece 3218
Folio 134

[Michael Craig]

She is registered as Margaret Mary. September quarter Salford vol 8d pg 115

But in 1891 census she is M Ann.

1891 census
Piece 3218
Folio 134

and the two are the same i will order the birth cert

[Michael Craig]

There was a John Taylor aged 24, musician, in household with John & Annie Valente on 1911 census. Relationship to head of household was servant. I thought he might have been brother-in-law to John Valente. Another young man in the household whose occupation was also musician was also servant to head of household.

I tought this too the census was done april 1911 and margaret / annie was born on the 16 aug 1886 as in the 1939 register so i was thinking his is a twin as born the same age or the mother got pregent right away and john born 4 to 8 weeks early or no relation at all he was born oldham she manchester mmmm not sure

[Maiden Stone]

There was a John Taylor aged 24, musician, in household with John & Annie Valente on 1911 census. Relationship to head of household was servant. I thought he might have been brother-in-law to John Valente.

I thought this too the census was done april 1911 and margaret / annie was born on the 16 aug 1886 as in the 1939 register so i was thinking his is a twin as born the same age or the mother got pregent right away and john born 4 to 8 weeks early or no relation at all he was born oldham she manchester mmmm not sure

I thought at first that he might have been Annie/Margaret's brother, but:
1. If he was her brother his relationship to head of household on the census should have been brother-in-
    law.
2. There were some John Taylor birth registrations in Oldham but I couldn't see one with Riley/Reilly
   mother's maiden surname.
He might have been a more distant relative or not related at all. Taylor is such a common name. 

[Maiden Stone]

1891 3218 /134
Long Street, Salford
Joseph Taylor 41 yrs ?plate worker b Ulverston
Margaret Taylor 38 yrs b Whitehaven
Oliver Taylor 13 yrs
M Ann Taylor 4 yrs
Jos Ed Taylor 2 months
Children b Salford

1901 3726 /10/11
Walnut Street, Broughton

Joseph is a Brass worker - Sheet Metal Worker (I think you mention this)
Margaret wife
Margaret M, 14 yrs
Albert 7 yrs

Joseph and Margaret were names of Margaret Taylor's parents in the church marriage register for her Catholic wedding ceremony to John Valente in 1921. (See reply #13)

[heywood]

I just offered that Margaret as there are a couple of similarities, parental names and father’s occupation and by checking her birthdate, it would confirm/deny that it was her.
It is a pity that there are no baptismal records online that I can see.
As Maiden Stone says, it is a common surname.
I have, in the past, looked for a marriage for John Taylor in that area but too hard.

[Michael Craig]

i have paid for the birth certificate for margaret taylor in 1886 in the sept so will have to wait to see if the birth cert matches

[heywood]

Oh I do hope so.

[Michael Craig]

any idea how to find a Honorio Valente born italy guessing around 1840 to say 1855 son would be eith john valente or giovanni valente