Stuck and Need help on 2nd great grandparents, Thomas Johnson and Fanny Wilmot

[Jason Jase]

I was wondering if anyone could help me with a brick wall I have on my family tree (I have been stuck on it for over a year.

-I am looking to find their parents and Siblings since for both of them I only have information on them after they were married.

-I am also looking for the Date of Death of Thomas Johnson

-I am also trying to find out how Fanny Wilmot last name turned out to be "Jaques" upon her last marriage

Facts
Thomas Johnson  born 1848 • Maidstone, Kent, or Exeter, Devon England and Died
married 14 Jan 1877 • London, England to
Fanny Wilmot (born  3 FEB 1851 • Holy Trinity, Bristol, Gloucester, England died 18 JUN 1923 • Bath, Somerset, England)

They had a Daughter (my great grandmother)
Ruby Ingram Johnson born 16 DEC 1877 • Southampton, Hampshire, England and died 10 NOV 1956 • Kensington, London, England

1881 census,  Thomas, Fanny and Ruby Johnson lived 38 Bignor St, Cheetham, Lancashire
 1891 Thomas, Fanny Johnson ""Brixton, Lambeth, London, England” (no Ruby living with them?) maybe a different couple?

I think Thomas Johnson died 13 Mar 1891 buried in Prescot, Lancashire, England. Yet I am not sure if it was the same person I am related to???

1901 I have found "Fanny Marchmont” with her husband ""Arthur W Marchmont”
In ""Bristol, Somerset, England”
( I know that Fanny married Arthur Marchmont for two reasons
1. Ruby Fortt nee Johnson inherited Arthur Marchmont estate upon his death and I have record of that.
2. Ruby Fortt nee Johnson told my mom her mom Fanny married a well know Author Arthur W Marchmont. (record shows Arthur Marchmont married a Fanny Jaques, I have no Idea where the Jaques name came from???

1911 I have a Fanny And Thomas Johnson living at "50 Effra Parade, Brixton SW I think this is a different couple with the same name and Thomas with the same Birth year.? Which makes me think I have had two couple mixed up???

Anyways I would appreciate any help clearing this up
Thanks






 
 

[mckha489]

I would say she had another marriage before the Marchmont one.
(Or at least said she had an in between marriage)


Transcription here

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Her father is Edward Wilmott, she is a widow.

[Hillhurst]

Thomas Johnson...married 14 Jan 1877...Fanny Wilmot

Do you have the 1877 marriage record? What are their fathers' names and occupations?

I see Ruby's baptism in Manchester:

Birth 1877
Baptised 23 Nov 1878
Parents Thomas & Fanny Johnson

[mckha489]

1891

Ruth and Fanny are in Wandsworth

Ruth Johnson 13 daughter in law (=step daughter)
Fanny Jacques age 40
William E Jacques 54. He is a Tramways manager.  They have 3 servants

Lots of mis transcribing

[mckha489]

William Edward Jacques died October 1891
Probate to Fanny Johnson widow

So probably they didn’t ever marry.
1892 address for Fanny and Arthur most probably a lodging house.

[mckha489]

Thomas Johnson...married 14 Jan 1877...Fanny Wilmot

Do you have the 1877 marriage record? What are their fathers' names and occupations?

Thomas Johnson Tobacconist, father also Thomas, a Surgeon
Edward Wilmot is a Gentleman  (in 1892 he is deceased and a coal dealer)


They married by licence.
Fanny’s address is Above Bar ( ) Southampton
Thomas  60 Davies st (presumably in the parish of Hanover where marriage took place?)

[Neale1961]

1877 marriage of Thomas Johnson to Fanny Wilmot. His father is named as Thomas Johnson (surgeon) and her father is Edward Wilmott (Gentleman)

Ruby Ingram Johnson born 16 Dec 1877 Southhampton Hampshire
She was baptised Nov 1878 in Manchester. Her father Thomas - a clerk.

1891 census Wandsworth
Ruby Johnson age 13 is living with her mother Fanny (40), now the “wife” of William E .JACQUES – 54, a tramway manager.

28 Apr 1892 Marriage ST John Preston, Lancashire
Fanny Jacques 38 widow married Arthur William Marchmont.
Her father Edward Wilmott – coal dealer

20th July 1897 St. Philip Kensington - Ruby Ingram Johnson married (under age 19 years) Alfred Herbert Fortt age 26
Her address was ST Philip’s Vicarage. He was from Widcombe, Bath
Marriage record has her father as “Gentleman” deceased.
His father as James Fortt – Manufacturer
Witness was Arthur W Marchmont and Frank Charlie Fortt

Children Stanley Marchmont Fortt (1907 Bath), France Eleanor Fortt (1908 Bath) and Arthur Raymon Fortr (1916 Bath)

Alfred Herbert Fortt died 9 Aug 1941
Ruby Ingram Fortt (Widow) died London 10 Nov 1956. Probate – Arthur Raymond Fortt Photographic artist

Fanny Marchmont died 14 June 1923
Arthur William Marchmont died 2 July 1923

[Neale1961]

Fanny Wilmot born 3 Feb 1851; not baptised until 1860 in Bristol
On baptism mother is  named Margaret Wilmot (no father mentioned)

[Cas (stallc)]

Don't know if connected, but there is this birth reg that would fit with birthdate.

Mothers Maiden Name - Wilmot

Fanny Wilmot Jones
Registration Date:   1851
Quarter of the Year:   Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Place:   Bedminster, Somerset, England
Volume:   11 Page:   70

Cas