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Re: Caroline Cottrell born 1817
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 27 August 22 10:43 BST (UK) »
Found the page  . . . . . using the Left hand menu bar, as you said JenB.   I have found that is often the way on ehas to approach it, when searching convict records.

 Yes, there is a big space left isn't there. 

But the writing above the line appears to be in a different hand and with different ink.     :-\ :-\    Hmmmm  :-\

Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Caroline Cottrell born 1817
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 28 August 22 02:34 BST (UK) »
Hi - the notes above the line/above her name are for the previous convict's entry.
'Notes on bottom of page indicate the areas to which the convict was assigned'
https://libraries.tas.gov.au/family-history/Pages/Convict-abbreviations.aspx
They sometimes are written on the side of the page

Montague would have been the person she was assigned to work for.
'The information of conduct after arrival consists chiefly of offences which are recorded on a standard pattern: date of trial, place of convict's employment or name of his master, charge, sentence, magistrate'
https://stors.tas.gov.au/AI/CON40

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Re: Caroline Cottrell born 1817
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 28 August 22 06:49 BST (UK) »
Many Thanks for all of this.
I can see now that the notes above the line pertain to the previous convict record.
But  '6 mos hard labour' - she was pregnant at this time - as a result of allowing a man (her future husband Thomas Shorland/Sharland - married 1846) into her bedroom) Seems a bit harsh!!
But also - after this entry - does it go straight into 'Conditional Pardon - on 21.4.1846 Class 3'?
I know there were classes of probation, but do you know what Class 3 restrictions were?
I also have now found the Conduct record for Thomas Shorland - which again, have parts difficult to decipher. I will upload it on a separate post.
Many Thanks again for all your help.
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Re: Caroline Cottrell born 1817
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 28 August 22 07:34 BST (UK) »
It will be interesting to see if he got 6 months hard labour for going into her bedroom.


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Re: Caroline Cottrell born 1817
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 28 August 22 10:32 BST (UK) »
I can't make it out - perhaps solitary confinement?
See attached
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Re: Caroline Cottrell born 1817
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 28 August 22 13:19 BST (UK) »
7 days! Compared with the 6mths hard labour How was that fair?

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Re: Caroline Cottrell born 1817
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 28 August 22 13:32 BST (UK) »
The difference in treatment of a male Back then!!  ::)   and maybe not just back then!!   

I bet it was more to do with not being where he should have been rather than the being in the woman's room - what do you think?   ;)
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Caroline Cottrell born 1817
« Reply #25 on: Monday 29 August 22 01:55 BST (UK) »
But it also seems strange that he was sentenced to Life for Housebreaking & stealing a Crown piece (5 shillings?) while she was given 10 years for stealing clothes worth 15 pounds.
He was tried in Somerset, & she at the Old Bailey.