Martin Winn's kids seem to have different mothers?

[Seelife]

Hi JenB, its a wild shot, thought there may be something that points at a person not of that family living with them... exploring reasons why there is a name flip. But as you say, wait for the marriage cert, patience isnt my strong suite. But Heywoods info helps somewhat...

[JenB]

But Heywoods info helps somewhat...

I should hope that the information that all of us have given has helped 'somewhat'.

[Seelife]

OH, please excuse my offhand remark.
The help is far from "somewhat", poor choice of words indeed. The help from all of you has been super and demonstrates the incredible knowledge and resources these forums provide. My apologies, it was not meant so. It refers more to my ability to interpret the facts, Im still trying to get my head around all the various new info. The quick search should I hope provide some direction.
My sincere thanks to all here....

[Seelife]

Still waiting on the record, probably early next week.
I tried looking at Bastardy records, I found Storey's but all in the wrong timeframe or location.
Found another reference to a Mary Story married to a Winn, Mary Storey married one of these people - Thomas Winn, Martin Winn 1864, 10a 404 from FindMyPast. So still a mystery where this Forbes come into play.I did find a Mary Forbes marriage but in 1866 and in Gateshead and a different husband.

[Seelife]

While waiting for the cert of Martin Winn marriage to Mary Storey, I did a search on Durham County Council registers online. I found two results for a marriage to Mary Storer in 1864.
#41    STOREY    Mary    1864 and #42    STOREY    Mary    1864
One is to Martin Winn = STOREY, Mary, Year1864 marriage: WINN, Martin
The other was STOREY, Mary, 1864, DAVISON, Robert A
But in 1861, STOREY, Mary married FORSTER, Robert F
In the 1861-70 period there were no Mary Forbes married in the register, not until 1883 and that was not to Martin. Out of curiosity looked at convicts, Storey and Forbes but none fitted the time or place. Also looked at Wills. There was a Robert Storey a farmer, from Ferry Hill  died 3 April 1841.
There were Storeys and Forbes about but ATM no connection between them.

[Seelife]

Hi Folks, the certificate image has arrived.
The image shows Year 1862, Number 24 Dec 10th.
The Record is for St Cuthberts parish church:
Martin Winn age2 Batchelor, Residence F.Gate Moor, Father - Martin Winn, Father Occ Pitman
Mary Storey age18, spinster, Residence F.Gate Moor, Father - Micheal Storey, Father Occ Pitman
Married by Banns, ?Ridley
It appears to be in the presence of (I think) Robert Atkinson and (clearer) Margaret Winn

I assume F.Gate Moor is Framwell Gae Moor.
AS Mary's father is Michael Storey, at least I have a line to explore. But I have no idea where the Forbes angle comes in. It is possible as was suggested, that there was a family mixup where Mary decided to use the name of a close family for records. But it seems less likey that it was the marriage that has misleading info due to fathers name.

Interestingly on the same page above Martins marriage is another Winn marriage.
Thomas Winn marries a Hannah Toward on 26 November also of F.Gate Moor and father Martin Winn

[Millmoor]

Worth noting that the father of Mary Forbes was Michael Forbes. As Osprey has already indicated it looks like Michael Forbes was illegitimate. He may have known his father was called Storey.

I have something similar in my own family. My grandfather and siblings show different mother's maiden names. The explanation is that his mother was illegitimate - her mother married three years later. Some births show her surname at birth while others show her mother's married name.

William

[Seelife]

Hi Millmoor, That may well explain some of what is going on. Still strange that Mary decided to enter Forbes rather than than Storey or use a middle name as was sometimes used. Well, I will dig a little more, but it looks like we have a possible explanation.
Added : yes I have the baptism of Michael 1815 that shows Jane Forbes, single womman, Gateshead.

[JenB]

My own feeling is that somehow, but I don't know why, Mary Forbes and Mary Storey are the same person.

I’m still of the same opinion, particularly as Mary ‘Storey’ gave her father’s Christian name as Michael which was the same as Mary Forbes’ father’s. Same father’s occupation as well and living in Framwellgate same as in the 1861 census.